> On Sep 10, 8:12 pm, "jonathan" write.instead.net> wrote:

>> God as the Emergent Process of Creation.
>>
>> A pioneer of complexity science, Stuart A. Kauffman, M.D., is
>> Chief Scientific Officer and Chairman of the Board, Bios Group Inc.
>> Since 1985, he has served as a consultant to Los Alamos National
>> Laboratory, and from 1986 to 1998 as Professor at the Santa Fe
>> Institute. Major areas of research include Developmental Genetics,
>> Theoretical Biology, Evolution, and the Origin of Life. He was
>> awarded the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship
>> and The Herbert A. Simon Award.
>>
>> Beyond Reductionism: Reinventing the Sacred
>>
>> Stuart Kauffman
>>
>> Abstract
>>
>> "We have lived under the hegemony of the reductionistic scientific worldview
>> since Galileo, Newton, and Laplace. In this view, the universe is meaningless,
>> as Stephen Weinberg famously said, and organisms and a court of law are "nothing
>> but" particles in morion. This scientific view is inadequate. Physicists are
>> beginning to abandon reductionism in favor of emergence. Emergence, both
>> epistemological and ontological, embraces the emergence of life and of agency.
>> With agency comes meaning, value, and doing, beyond mere happenings. More
>> organisms are conscious. None of this violates any laws of physics, but it
>> cannot be reduced to physics. Emergence is real, and the tiger chasing the
>> gazelle are real parts of the real universe.
>>
>> We live, therefore, in an emergent universe. This emergence often is entirely
>> unpredictable beforehand, from the evolution of novel functionalities in
>> organisms to the evolution of the economy and human history. We are surrounded
>> on all sides by a creativity that cannot even be prestated. Thus we have the
>> first glimmerings of a new scientific worldview, beyond reductionism. In our
>> universe emergence is real, and there is ceaseless, stunning creativity that has
>> given rise to our biosphere, our humanity, and our history. We are partial
>> co-creators of this emergent creativity.
>>
>> It is our choice whether we use the God word. I believe it is wise to do so. God
>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe. Such a
>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the creativity in
>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically forced
>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse and
>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully natural
>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is open to
>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how our most
>> precious values evolve and invites ethical hegemony. We need a shared global
>> ethic beyond our materialism. I believe a sense of God as the natural, awesome
>> creativity in the universe can help us construct the sacred and a global ethic
>> to help shape the global civilization toward what we choose with the best of our
>> limited wisdom."
>>
>> http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/kauffman06/kauffman06_index.html
>>
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>> limited wisdom.

>
> It is well enough mainstream accepted that there has been a good God
> and a bad God.
>
> The well educated and otherwise technologically informed Cathars were
> among the few trying their best intensions at keeping us in tune or
> focused upon what a good God would have liked of us humans to strive
> for.
>
> Obviously the Roman Catholic bad God knew how to kick serious butt,
> and their Pope (aka commander and chief faith-based moron of that era)
> did just that, setting up an example that clearly impressed Hitler,
> and not otherwise having gone unnoticed by his white skinned Zionist
> puppet masters as having a global domination plan of their very own.
>
> Hitler and of his physics and science company of Zionist goons plus
> countless servitude minions treated those of their concentration camps
> better off than rabbi Saul and Deco has treated far too many within
> Usenet/newsgroups, and yet folks like Stuart Kauffman and yourself so
> often keep entertaining our resident republican Godfather perverts as
> though they are even slightly human.
>
> One thing for certain, your Eden should have no accommodations for the
> likes of rabbi Saul unless given preferential status by way of
> yourself. Do you really want the likes of Saul and other pretend-
> Atheists as intellectual predatory perverts in your Eden?
>
> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG