| Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman |
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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: thomas p.thomas p. Date: Sep 12, 2008 00:18
>> In article <48c93406$0$56791$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk> "thomas p."
>> yahoo.com> writes:
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>>> "Damien Valentine" gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:1433408c-2124-479a-9193-6ae270a4f4b2@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>> He expressed his religious beliefs. The fact that he is also a
>>>> scientist
>>>> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.
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>>> I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious. As
>>> far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
>>> technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
>>> somehow, all by itself.
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>>> I think the hope is that nobody will notice that it is pseudoscientific
>>> garbage.
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>> Well, not really. I'm currently halfway through the actual book
>> (Kaffuman
>> is never a page-turner) and the science is not at all questionable.
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> Right!
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> He's a founder of Boolean networks, perhaps the most basic foundation
> for the field of artificial intelligence, chaos theory and self
> organization.
> But he's a biologist first, and he's helped to create the entire notion
> of the complex adaptive system. Which I believe to be essentially
> an abstract mathematical model of an evolving system. He's
> managed to put the Darwin we all know and love in completely
> abstract terms. So it can be applied universally, which means
> also to ....non-living....systems.
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> A universal model of evolution ...or creation. His mathematics, is
> showing the universe has the /inherent/ tendency to self organize.
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>>And
>> insofar as the God here being one any Christian would care to claim,
>> Kauffman's "God" makes the god of the Enlightenment Deists look like a
>> tribal idol. Kauffman's god is purely what he sees as the restless,
>> endlessly self-organizing nature of the material universe -- and nothing
>> else. Nothing else.
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> It's ability to create! Worshipping the processes of Nature as God!
> Or more specifically the specific process of greatest importance.
> Emergence!
For what reason should a process be worshipped?
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