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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: BradGuth
Date: Sep 11, 2008 04:14

On Sep 10, 8:12 pm, "jonathan" write.instead.net> wrote:
> God as the Emergent Process of Creation.
>
> A pioneer of complexity science, Stuart A. Kauffman, M.D., is
> Chief Scientific Officer and Chairman of the Board, Bios Group Inc.
> Since 1985, he has served as a consultant to Los Alamos National
> Laboratory, and from 1986 to 1998 as Professor at the Santa Fe
> Institute. Major areas of research include Developmental Genetics,
> Theoretical Biology, Evolution, and the Origin of Life. He was
> awarded the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship
> and The Herbert A. Simon Award.
>
> Beyond Reductionism: Reinventing the Sacred
>
> Stuart Kauffman
>
> Abstract
>
> "We have lived under the hegemony of the reductionistic scientific worldview
> since Galileo, Newton, and Laplace. In this view, the universe is meaningless, ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: GordHnotGordB
Date: Sep 11, 2008 06:38

"BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message news:aee83500-96e9-4004-
>>
>> God
>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe.
>> Such a
>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the
>> creativity in
>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically
>> forced
>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse
>> and
>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully
>> natural
>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is
>> open to
>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how
>> our most
>> precious values evolve and invites ethical hegemony. We need a shared
>> global
>> ethic beyond our materialism. I believe a sense of God as the natural, ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Ben Kaufman
Date: Sep 11, 2008 17:31

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:38:04 +0100, "GordHnotGordB" tht.com> wrote:
>"BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message news:aee83500-96e9-4004-
>>>
>>> God
>>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe.
>>> Such a
>>> view invites a new sense...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: jonathan
Date: Sep 11, 2008 18:41

"GordHnotGordB" tht.com> wrote in message
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>
> How nice. Now, tell us: do we pray to this God, or not??
>

I'm sure you already do!

"In the name of the bee
And of the butterfly
And of the breeze, amen!"
> G.
>
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: jonathan
Date: Sep 11, 2008 18:43

"Ben Kaufman" pobox.com> wrote in message
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>
> Or better yet, which countries do we invade to satisfy its blood lust?
>
> Ben

This God would have democracy and freedom 'invade' us all.
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Mark K. Bilbo
Date: Sep 11, 2008 19:43

Ben Kaufman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:38:04 +0100, "GordHnotGordB" tht.com> wrote:
>
>> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message news:aee83500-96e9-4004-
>>>> God
>>>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe.
>>>> Such a
>>>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the
>>>> creativity in
>>>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically
>>>> forced
>>>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse
>>>> and
>>>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully
>>>> natural
>>>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is
>>>> open to
>>>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how
>>>> our most
>>>> precious values evolve and invites ethical hegemony. We need a shared ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: thomas p.
Date: Sep 12, 2008 00:21

"jonathan" write.instead.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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>
> "Ben Kaufman" pobox.com> wrote in
> message news:m1ejc49pgqfrvsqpvekabf4cj4mpi214d5@4ax.com...
>
>
>>
>> Or better yet, which countries do we invade to satisfy its blood lust?
>>
>> Ben
>
>
> This God would have democracy and freedom 'invade' us all.
>
>
>

What god?
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: panamfloyd
Date: Sep 12, 2008 00:56

On Sep 11, 7:14 am, BradGuth gmail.com> wrote:

Go fuck your dog again, Guth. He and your fellow beastialifans are the
only ones who believe you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEvR-c60Na4

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/missions/apollo15_touchdown_photos_010427.h...

http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm

http://www.clavius.org/why.html

I still wonder how you survive when your diet consists entirely of
shit, Brad. Perhaps you and Andy Chung should get together and compare
recipies.

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Cary Kittrell
Date: Sep 12, 2008 08:38

In article blaze.blaze.net> "Mark K. Bilbo" writes:
> Ben Kaufman wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:38:04 +0100, "GordHnotGordB" tht.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "BradGuth" gmail.com> wrote in message news:aee83500-96e9-4004-
>>>>> God
>>>>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe.
>>>>> Such a
>>>>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the
>>>>> creativity in
>>>>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically
>>>>> forced
>>>>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse
>>>>> and
>>>>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully
>>>>> natural
>>>>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is
>>>>> open to
>>>>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how
>>>>> our most ...
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