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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: thomas p.
Date: Sep 11, 2008 00:13

"jonathan" write.instead.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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> God as the Emergent Process of Creation.
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>
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> A pioneer of complexity science, Stuart A. Kauffman, M.D., is
> Chief Scientific Officer and Chairman of the Board, Bios Group Inc.
> Since 1985, he has served as a consultant to Los Alamos National
> Laboratory, and from 1986 to 1998 as Professor at the Santa Fe
> Institute. Major areas of research include Developmental Genetics,
> Theoretical Biology, Evolution, and the Origin of Life. He was
> awarded the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship
> and The Herbert A. Simon Award.
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>
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> Beyond Reductionism: Reinventing the Sacred
> ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Damien Valentine
Date: Sep 11, 2008 01:23

On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
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> He expressed his religious beliefs.  The fact that he is also a scientist
> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.

I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious. As
far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
somehow, all by itself.
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Nosterill
Date: Sep 11, 2008 05:01

On Sep 11, 9:23 am, Damien Valentine gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> He expressed his religious beliefs.  The fact that he is also a scientist
>> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.
>
> I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious.  As
> far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
> technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
> somehow, all by itself.

Well, as long as "emergence" doesn't demand regular worship, pecuniary
sacrifices and the right of veto on our sex lives, it could be
something of an improvement.
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Jack
Date: Sep 11, 2008 05:17

Nosterill wrote:
> On Sep 11, 9:23 am, Damien Valentine gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> He expressed his religious beliefs. The fact that he is
>>> also a scientist does nothing to support the validity
>>> of those beliefs.
>>
>> I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly
>> religious. As far as I can tell, he's just swapping the
>> vague word "God" for the technical term "emergence", and
>> hoping that makes everything better somehow, all by
>> itself.
>
> Well, as long as "emergence" doesn't demand regular
> worship, pecuniary sacrifices and the right of veto on ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: thomas p.
Date: Sep 11, 2008 08:06

"Damien Valentine" gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> He expressed his religious beliefs. The fact that he is also a scientist
> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.

I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious. As
far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
somehow, all by itself.
______________________________________________________-

I think the hope is that nobody will notice that it is pseudoscientific
garbage.
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Cary Kittrell
Date: Sep 11, 2008 10:53

In article <48c93406$0$56791$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk> "thomas p." yahoo.com> writes:
>
> "Damien Valentine" gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:1433408c-2124-479a-9193-6ae270a4f4b2@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> He expressed his religious beliefs. The fact that he is also a scientist
>> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.
>
> I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious. As
> far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
> technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
> somehow, all by itself.
> ______________________________________________________-
>
> I think the hope is that nobody will notice that it is...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: jonathan
Date: Sep 11, 2008 18:23

"Cary Kittrell" afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <48c93406$0$56791$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk> "thomas p."
> yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> "Damien Valentine" gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:1433408c-2124-479a-9193-6ae270a4f4b2@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> He expressed his religious beliefs. The fact that he is also a scientist
>>> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.
>>
>> I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious. As
>> far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
>> technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
>> somehow, all by itself.
>> ______________________________________________________-
>>
>> I think the hope is that nobody will notice that it is pseudoscientific
>> garbage. ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: thomas p.
Date: Sep 12, 2008 00:16

"Cary Kittrell" afone.as.arizona.edu> skrev i en meddelelse
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> In article <48c93406$0$56791$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk> "thomas p."
> yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> "Damien Valentine" gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:1433408c-2124-479a-9193-6ae270a4f4b2@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> He expressed his religious beliefs. The fact that he is also a
>>> scientist
>>> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.
>>
>> I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious. As
>> far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
>> technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
>> somehow, all by itself.
>> ______________________________________________________-
>>
>> I think the hope is that nobody will notice that it is pseudoscientific ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: thomas p.
Date: Sep 12, 2008 00:18

"jonathan" write.instead.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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>
> "Cary Kittrell" afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> news:gablva$5sj$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
>> In article <48c93406$0$56791$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk> "thomas p."
>> yahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>> "Damien Valentine" gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:1433408c-2124-479a-9193-6ae270a4f4b2@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Sep 11, 12:13 am, "thomas p." yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> He expressed his religious beliefs. The fact that he is also a
>>>> scientist
>>>> does nothing to support the validity of those beliefs.
>>>
>>> I'm not even sure how these beliefs are particularly religious. As
>>> far as I can tell, he's just swapping the vague word "God" for the
>>> technical term "emergence", and hoping that makes everything better
>>> somehow, all by itself. ...
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         


Author: Ben Kaufman
Date: Sep 12, 2008 08:04

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:53:46 +0000 (UTC), cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
>In article <48c93406$0$56791$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk> "thomas p." yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> "Damien Valentine" gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:1433408c-2124-479a-9193...
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