"John F. Eldredge"
jfeldredge.com> writes:>On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:03:32 -0700, Jerry Kraus wrote:
>
>> On Aug 5, 3:35Â pm, mimus
hotmail.com> wrote:>>> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:29:00 -0500, Bert Byfield wrote:
>>>>>> Fact: Â there is absolutely no evidence of rapid catastrophic global
>>>>>> warming occurring.
>>>
>>>>> Tell it to the polar bears.
>>>>> And the penguins on the other end.
>>>
>>>> So polar bears and penguins believe in "global warming"? The "global
>>>> warming" people finally found someone they can scare with their end
>>>> of the world stories?
>>>
>>> It's a plot by the evil corporate plutocrats using the evil
>>> environmentalists to sell the bears brown hair-dye.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "The math is easy," said Chaos.
>>>
>>> < _Thief of Time_
>
>... and then you cite an article that disagrees with your claims.
>
>According to that article, the temperature 1000 years ago was cooler than
>it is now, although it was warmer than the periods immediately preceding
>and following. Did you try reading the article, or looking at the graph?
>
Probably not a good idea for either of you to use Wikipedia as a
scientific reference, particularly with respect to anything related
to AGW.
The soi-disant spaghetti graph used by that reference has been shown to be
statistically suspect, particularly in the reconstructions of past
temperatures based on the idea of 'teleconnection' (look it up) between
hemispheric temperature anomolies and tree-ring widths.
The IPCC finding on the lack of a global MWP has also been shown via
the literature to be incorrect. The accidentially leaked email between
two climate researchers where one states "We need to eliminate the MWP" is
additionally damning.
The idea that one can guess at a global temperature from tree-ring and
ice core data to more than a couple of degrees precision seems somewhat
speculative, and there has yet to be a physical theory relating tree-ring
width to temperature.
scott
