Publius nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>> You're exactly right. However, writing or accepting a note
>>> (which is a promise to pay a certain sum at a certain time) is
>>> not producing money "out of thin air." The writer of the note
>>> must produce evidence of a capacity to pay when due.
>>
>> It is producing money out of thin air, when the note writer
>> doesn't have the capacity to pay when due.
>>
>> Your discription above is how it should be, and how it is for
>> individuals who lend wealth to eachother, but not for banks.
>> Banks routinely loan out far more money than they have the
>> capacity to pay. Usually they get a way with it, sometimes (like
>> during this housing crisis) they don't, and it falls on all of
>> *our* sholders to pay.
>
> Yes. They maintain reserves sufficient to cover *anticipated*
> demands for payment, which is less than the total amount due. That
> allows them to pay higher interest rates and higher dividends to
> stockholders. But it also exposes those depositors and investors to
> some risk. Those who prefer security to higher returns can convert
> their money to gold and bury it in the back yard.
>
> There is no economic reason for those risks to be passed on to non-
> depositors and non-investors, however. Banks carry deposit
> insurance, for which they pay premiums. If losses outrun the
> insurance coverage, tough luck for the inverstors and depositors.
>
> That is not how it works politically, of course. They'll all run to
> the gummint with their hands out, just like homeowners in Louisiana
> who build in flood plains, decline to build adequate levees or buy
> flood insurance, then run crying to the gummint when a hurricane
> strikes.
First, one cannot excuse the fact that they *cannot* make good on their
promises, by saying that they don't "anticipate" that they will have to.
Second, there is an economic reason the risks are passed on to
non-depositors and non-investors. *All* of us buy into the trust. Even
those of us who don't, have to at least act like we do in order to make
ends meet. The system is inherently unsustainable, but it is so huge,
such a fundamental part of society, that if (when) if fails *all* of us
will suffer. Even non-depositors and non-investors have a vested
interest in trying to keep the banking system going, despite the fact
that it cannot continue.
We are all on the same treadmill, and when those investors walk a little
faster *all of us* have to as well or we will fall off.