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Re: Roll Up Your Sleeves and Get to Work         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: ta
Date: Jun 12, 2007 11:11

On Jun 12, 1:41 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 12, 10:16 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 12, 9:41 am, Mike Estep PhD MikeEstep.com> wrote:
>
>>> I've been giving private music lessons for 22 years on bass, drums,
>>> guitar, keyboard, vocals, and music technologies. My many students
>>> have covered the gamut of ages (5-75) and walks of life (carpenters,
>>> electricians, housewives, politicians, doctors, lawyers, students,
>>> teachers, farmers, ranchers, pastors, etc.). In some ways I've felt
>>> like a counselor, having been in a position to observe much about
>>> human behavior.
>
>>> [...]
>
>>> Therefore, using the above mentioned techniques can go a long way in
>>> helping you to be in control of your mind and thus make better
>>> decisions.
>
>> No, I don't think so. Trying to trick yourself is what lazy people do
>> instead of practicing.
>
> I think I agree that sometimes tricking yourself can be
> counterproductive but sometimes it might be just enough to step back
> from interferes with discipline. "Distraction" can lead to discipline,
> sort of like a scaffoulding which can be taken away after the course
> has been set upon. Same way as cognitive therapy works by distracting
> the thought process that bothers you.

I see distraction as more escape from the task at hand. For example,
my sitting here typing this reply is an escape from the work I really
should be doing.

I don't understand how one can learn to be disciplined through
distraction. It's focus that develops discipline.
> Cognitive skills for managing anxiety involve distraction and
> decatastrophizing. Distraction is a very powerful means of reducing
> intense anxiety and panic. When one is consumed with a high level of
> anxiety, it is very hard to recognize and challenge distorted
> thoughts. However, if panic-stricken people can "get out of their
> heads" for a few minutes by focusing intensely and exclusively on some
> outside stimulus (while at the same time using the diaphragmatic
> breathing method) anxiety will diminish, often to a level where
> individuals can reason with themselves.
>
> http://www.habitsmart.com/anx.html
>
>
>
>>> These truths are simple and work for us if we work for them. So, roll
>>> up those sleeves and get to work on developing skills and knowledge -
>>> in music or whatever area you pursue.
>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike Estep PhD
>
>>> Mike Estep.com - Common Sense Outside the Box
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