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Re: Richard Dawkins is proof that you can be intelligent AND really shupid.         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Matt D.
Date: May 11, 2008 06:20

"Cormac" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 11, 8:01 am, "Matt D." tel.net> w it's hard to find
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>>> before
>>> Beethoven for whom 'nature' meant anything connected with 'beauty' and
>>> 'wonderment'. When Mozart as a young man crossed the Alps in a
>>> carriage,
>>> he
>>> drew down the blinds because he didn't want to see what was around
>>> him...
>
>> Vivaldi's Four Seasons. Haydn's Seasons?
>
> Your point being?
>
>
> There were composers before Beethoven who were inspired by nature.
>

I never said there weren't. Learn to read for comprehension. I'm sure my
original posting is still available higher up the thread. Maybe someone will
explain it to you.

In any case, 'The Seasons' is from 1801, only 7 years before the 'Pastoral'.

Plus: the extra-musical baggage of the Vivaldi consists of poems that aren't
to do with 'nature' so much as with *people's experience* of an aspect of
it. Vivaldi wasn't 'inspired by nature', so much as by a poem that went:
-------
Autumn:
Allegro
The peasant celebrates, with songs and dances,
The pleasure of a bountiful harvest.
And fired up by Bacchus' liquor, many end their revelry in sleep.

Adagio molto
Everyone is made to forget their cares and to sing and dance
By the air which is tempered with pleasure
And (by) the season that invites so many, many
Out of their sweetest slumber to fine enjoyment

Allegro
The hunters emerge at the new dawn,
And with horns and dogs and guns depart upon their hunting
The beast flees and they follow its trail;
Terrified and tired of the great noise
Of guns and dogs, the beast, wounded, threatens
Languidly to flee, but harried, dies.
-------

I am beginning to suspect that you have a brain injury.

Matt.
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