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Re: Refuting The Dimitrov Case Study - Algae         

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Author: The Ghost In The Machine
Date: Jun 28, 2008 20:47

In sci.econ, The Trucker
verizon.net>
wrote
on Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:39:06 -0700
verizon.net>:
> I was recently presented with a supposed "scientific paper" that was
> meant to prove that algae based biofuels were unscientific hokum and
> snake oil. I was, to say the least, rather upset when I read this paper.
> I am not a scientist and all the stuff about PAR's and joules and the
> like was really confusing. But I think I managed to deal with all of
> that and still find the false framing.
>
> http://www.nanostring.net/Algae/CaseStudy.pdf
>
> In the "study" we find the following pronouncement:
>
> E is the Energy in the biomass
> PAR is the energy from the sun
> Q is the efficiencey of the conversion of sun energy to biomass energy
>
> W = PAR * Q
>
> All of this is well and good and reasonable. And then we have:
>
> Photosynthetic organisms use 8 photons to capture one molecule of CO2
> carbohydrate (CH2O). Given that one mole of CH2O has a heating value of
> 486kJ (486 kilo jules) and that the mean energy of a mole of PAR photons
> is 217.4kJ then the maximum theoretical conversion efficiency of PAR
> energy into CH2O is:
>
> 468kJ/(8 * 217.4kJ) = 27%%

I'm mildly surprised it's that high. Conventional
biodiesel has the pitifully tiny efficiency of about 3-6%%
-- which is logical given a delta of about 10 degrees at
300 degrees Kelvin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel#Efficiency_and_economic_arguments

Carnot predicts (10)/(300) = 3.33%% in that case.

I have no idea what the actual operating temperatures of
a leaf or bit of algae are; these are admittedly total guesses,
though 300 K = 27 C is a nice summer day.

This is not to say algae-based photosynthesis can't be
more efficient than a thermal heat engine, of course;
if nothing else, one can cool the incoming water (somehow)
and increase insolation, if the algae can handle it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel#Yield

suggests an estimated 1800 gallons per acre for algae
(one assumes per year but the article doesn't state),
which compares very favorably to palm oil (508 g/a) or
soybeans (59.2-98.6 g/a). Since a gallon of diesel oil
is about 120 MJ and an acre 4046.85642 m^2, that translates
into (very roughly) 100 GJ/day if one assumes 8 hours/day of
usable sunlight, or 36 TJ/year -- for 21.6 GJ worth of oil.

Granted, these figures are extremely rough, and one has
to further factor in insolation angle (latitude + season)
and weather estimations, but even assuming 15000 g/a,
one still only has an efficiency of about 7.5%%.

No doubt someone out there has better figures.

Contrast this to a good thermosolar plant, which could
probably generate 35%% efficiency easily by just heating the
oil to 600 degrees Kelvin (327 Celsius, 620 Fahrenheit) and
rejecting boiling water (373 K): (600-373)/600 = 37.8%%.

Even cheap photovoltaics beat biodiesel.

Admittedly, Google is being reticent again regarding thermosolar
efficiencies, and of course there are the usual battery weight
issues were one to charge electric cars therefrom. I can tell
you that a 50 MW plant in Aragon, Spain will cost 200 million euros,
or about $293M, to build.
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIndustryMaterialsUtilitiesNews/idUSL183635172...
>
> Well!!! GIVEN that the moon is made of green cheese and Pinocchio Bush
> tells the truth then the economy is sound and stabilizing. This dude is
> hoisting himself over a fence by grabbing his own underwear. I could not
> find any credible source for these "givens".
>
> But I will leave that aside for sake of argument and just "give" him his
> "givens".
>
> I am going to guess at this because that is what I do. I am not a
> scientist. I am a poker player.
>
> What is missing from this frame job is that great and wonderful
> realization in economics of the "unseen". Yes, we can "see" that these
> photons were absorbed by the algae as the algae made these CH2O things.
> But what happened to the rest of the energy? Did George Bush spend it on
> imperialism? Did those thieving Democrats use it to bribe the welfare
> bums?
>
> The envelope please:
>
> It says here that the rest of the energy bounced off or passed through
> this particular algae or this square micrometer of algae or this bag full
> of algae and it is still available. It did not run away and join the
> circus. It is still available to be used by a different algae.
> That's right! 73%% of the energy is still hopping around in the immediate
> vicinity and available to be used by another fuel producing algae. And
> if we can just manage to get this algae into the vicinity of this
> available energy then it too will suck up 27%% of what is left on the way
> to being 10%% efficient in making some fuel.
>
> Later in the document he uses the 27%% to produce the 10%% because we all
> know that the algae are going to use some of the energy (some of the 27%%)
> for reproduction and respiration. But the problem will inevitably trace
> back to the 27%% false framing and the assumption that the rest of the
> energy just disappeared.
>
> Still later in the document he speaks of the patent awarded GreenFuels
> for a system that seems to do the conversion at more than 40%% (of the
> 10%% or the 27%% or whatever) and accuses the patent office of malfeasance.
> The truth is that bio-reactors _USE_ that reflected/passed through energy
> that was not used by the first plane of algae. Even in a pond the second
> plane of algae will use the energy that passed through the first plane.
> Most of the energy is actually reflected and that is how we are able to
> _see_ the pond scum.
>
> It seems a good probability that this guy's last job was as a consulting
> scientist to a tobacco company. He has now been hired by the league of
> oil and nuclear fascists to fight the competitive free market algae
> farming economy.
>

I'll admit I don't think he's got a clue; thermodynamics doesn't
quite work that way. I'm not that up on photosynthesis, though,
but if one assumes blue light fires off the process the "waste light"
after it filters through the green leaves is pretty useless.

--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
Conventional memory has to be one of the most UNconventional
architectures I've seen in a computer system.
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