On 4 Nov 2006 14:38:30 -0800, mikegordge@
xtra.co.nz wrote:
>
>Oh so peaceful human beings should not be left alone to pursue their
>own happiness and their own peaceful values?
If that is all they are doing then fine.
>
>Treat poofters the same as murderers? chuck em in jail?
No they might like it in jail. Maybe whips or canes are in order.
Murderers should be executed and not be in jail either. We should
outlaw homosexual perversion. This is what they do:
GAY MILITANT INTENT: OUR KIDS
From Concerned Women From America
by Beverly LaHaye
Dear Concerned American,
What I am about to tell you in this letter is so outrageous you may
find it hard to believe. I was astounded myself. I could not believe
that our nation had fallen so far. But the reports here are true. I
have warned many times that our children are under attack. Now I'm
writing to sound the alarm that the situation is even worse than I
thought. I'll tell you more details in a moment, but here's just a
sample of what I've discovered:
Cross-dressing promoted to grade-school children Graphic instruction
in "gay" sex taught to teenage boys and girls Armed guards posted to
keep parents out of high school assemblies led by radical homosexual
activists A book - published by a taxpayer-funded university - that
endorses sex between children and adults!
I've warned about this for many years. Now the evidence is beyond
dispute: there is an evil scheme aimed at destroying our children. The
attack comes on many fronts. It aims to expose children to sex at
earlier and earlier ages... to rob them of their innocence and open
them up to immoral and unhealthy practices... to set them up to accept
messages of
"safe sex" and homosexuality... to usher them into becoming advocates
for - and ultimately participants in - sexual promiscuity, sodomy,
bisexuality, and transgenderism.
These reports confirm my worst fears about this scheme. The time is
short! Radical homosexual activists have long said, "Whoever controls
the schools, controls the future." If they can convince the next
generation that homosexuality is "just another lifestyle," there will
be no stopping them. Even more chilling: If they can lure a whole
generation of young people to explore "alternative" sexual behavior...
to discover their "gay side"...
they will have a whole new generation of young, willing sex partners.
Their first step is to promote gender confusion. Nothing I have ever
seen promises to confuse kids more than a lesson guide obtained and
given to me by one of the researchers here at CWA.
GRADE SCHOOL LESSON PROMOTES CROSS-DRESSING The Gay, Lesbian, and
Straight Education Network, also known as "GLSEN, is pushing a
grade-school curriculum book that promotes cross-dressing. This book
was created by a homosexual parents group at the Buena Vista
Elementary School in San Francisco. It includes a lesson based on a
children's book titled "Jesse's Dream Skirt."
As incredible as it sounds, this is real! The story is about a young
boy named Jesse who likes trying on his mother's dresses, and dreams
of a skirt "that whirled, twirled, flowed and glowed, and felt soft
inside." Jesse's mom helps him make a skirt, and he wears it to
daycare, where his classmates make fun of him. The daycare teacher,
Bruce, gathers the
children together and says, "Jesse loves his skirt. Why are some of
you making fun of him?" A girl says, "Well, I wear pants. Why can't
Jesse wear a skirt?"
A boy, Mike, says that one day his mother let him dress up in her old
dresses and hats. "It was a lot of fun," he said, until his father
came in and yelled at him, saying, "Take off that dress, I don't want
my son to be a sissy!" Mike told his daycare classmates, "I don't
know, - I still don't see what was wrong with it." The children and
their teacher discuss the issue and most of the children end up liking
Jesse's skirt. Some even start making dresses themselves. The book
ends with Jesse twirling around in his "dream skirt," with his
boy-style underwear showing. The companion lesson plan says the "key
message" of "Jesse's Dream Skirt" is: "Respect means keeping our minds
open. Having open minds means giving people freedom to be who they
want to be." I don't know what's worse: encouraging boys to wear
dresses, or the negative portrayal of Mike's father. Children who
study "Jesse's Dream Skirt" are getting the message that their
parents' view of morality cannot be trusted. Lest you think this sort
of insanity is restricted to California, take a loot at this next
report, straight from the Midwest. Armed Security Guard Ejects Mother
of Student from School Assembly on Homosexuality
This really made me angry when I heard about it! The incident took
place in St. Louis, Missouri last year just after school had started
for fall. Debra Loveless, whose daughter attends Metro High School,
heard that GLESEN was conducting a school-sponsored assembly. Loveless
had told school officials that she considered the event inappropriate.
When she tried to view it for herself, she was escorted out of the
assembly by an armed security guard. (Just for wanting to view it!)
Can you believe the arrogance of those school administrators! We may
never know all of what those dear young people were exposed to during
that assembly. But if GLSEN's past performance is any indication, the
material was corrupting an destructive. GLESEN has produced some of
the most foul "educational" material in the dishonorable history of
sex education. Two years ago, CWA uncovered a pornographic teaching
session conducted in Massachusetts by GLSEN. During that workshop,
homosexual instructors indoctrinated children as young
as 14 years old. The children heard detailed descriptions of
perverted sex acts, including the dangerous practice known in
homosexual slang as "fisting." After it was exposed, that session
sparked outrage across the nation. It was such a scandal that it
became known as "Fistgate." GLSEN leaders responded by becoming much
more secretive. Apparently this has led them to keep parents out of
their workshops like the one in St. Louis.
So it has come to this. Our tax dollars foot the bill for homosexual
propaganda to poison our children's minds and defile their hearts.
And when parents want to find out what's going on, they get thrown out
of public schools by armed guards! It's time for parents and
grandparents to stand up and fight to protect our children. We can't
think that just because it hasn't happened in our school yet that it
never will! The radical homosexual activists won't stop with just the
California schools. They won't stop with just the big city
schools. They won't stop until they have reached every school in the
nation.
DANGEROUS NEW BOOK PROVIDES ACADEMIC "COVER" FOR PEDOPHILES AND CHILD
MOLESTERS
The University of Minnesota Press has just published Judith Levine's
Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex. This
book includes such outrageous statements as, "Sex is not harmful to
children... There are many ways even the smallesst children can
partake of it."
On another page, the author gushes over a "lush and mysterious" photo
of a "naked 3- or 4-year-old." Quoting a variety of pedophiles,
Levine says children are not necessarily harmed by sex with adults.
She also advocates that America adopt a law like Holland's that
legalizes sex between adults and children as young as 12! It's
unbelievable, but this book is defended by the liberal media elite.
I'm shocked and heartbroken. But we should not be surprised.
America's standards of sexual morality have been belittled as
"taboos," and been worn down step by step. Today, almost nothing is
off limits. Sex between adults and children is just the next barrier
to be torn down. How long will it take these radical activists to
achieve their next evil objective? Our grade-school children are
already being taught that cross-dressing is just wonderful
self-expression. Graphic details of perverted sex practices are
already being taught to high school children, and parents are being
locked out of assemblies taught by radical homosexual activists. We
must - and we can - stop this. NOW! I grieve for our children and
grandchildren. And I fear for our nation if we do not stand up to
this assault of immorality and defeat it...
I've learned that GLSEN now boasts a budget of 3.5 million and a
membership of more than 1,200 homosexual-activist educators. Their
mission is to promote homosexuality and gender confusion in the
schools under any guise that works.
>
>And this makes you different to a communist how?
For one thing communists are against private property. Their ideas
are nonsense though they are right that capitalism is also bad.
>
>> The right is for outlawing all bad things and greed is
>> certainly a bad thing.
>
>According to what standard is greed a bad thing?
It's obvious. There are many movies that show this. The one about
Ebenezer Scrooge.
>
>> According to capitalist theory people must compete to see who
>> will work for the least pennies per hour.
>
>Nope, its much much simpler than that, according to capitalist theory,
>and according to millions of years of historical evidence, man survives
>best when his actions with other man are kept voluntary, in that
>endevour, man has found that it is in his nature to exchange with other
>man, lessor for greater values, why?
No, your blind faith in "marker forces" is wrong.
"Libertarians believe that once one is burned by charlatans,
they'll simply stop doing business with the ogres who proselytize
inferior work and product. But, isn't the hue and cry for governmental
regulation the mechanism that the public demands when they've been
ripped-off by nefarious business people? In many cases, especially
with bigger ticket items, they don't have the luxury of not doing
business with a sinister plutocrat, but must buy and weep over shoddy
business practices...
"Surely, we've seen enough charlatans to
know that the market itself cannot monitor its own activities to the
good of all!"
D. Stephen Heersink
>
>Because man has discovered that the opposite of that is to exchange a
>greater for lessor value, (e.g. paying $2 for a cabbage worth only
>$0.20c) which would ultimately result in his misery and his life would
>eventually become a matter of chance, at best, his life becomes a
>greater value to someone else, against his wishes.
It's true that Capitalism is "fair". Consider the guy who invented
the car and all the millions of people who benefit from that who don't
know the first thing mechanics. In America something like 2%% of the
people have 95%% of the wealth or whatever. I forget the actual
figures. Some of this was dishonest, but much of it was from producing
things, like microsoft software.
People who start businesses and create things are in fact superior
In all fairness there should be the few very rich and the many very
poor and that is what capitalism produces. But here is the point -
what good does it do them to have billions of dollars? What more can
they own or do, than if they merely had millions of dollars? Compare
that to the difference between having enough to afford shelter and
being out in the street. The guy who invented the car did a lot to
make things better for people. Replacing capitalism would also make
things better for people.
Capitalists don't agree that they are greedy. They say a person can
take their job for $5 an hour or they will find someone else to take
the job. It doesn't matter if they are making billions of dollars.
It's all perfectly fair in their minds. And they are totally against
"big government" doing anything to stop them. We can put an end to
their pathetic ideas without having any nonsense ideas like Communism.
Obviously we should have private property. And viewing business
leaders as enemies is also ridiculous. But capitalism is a horrible
idea and should go as extinct as the dinosaurs. In the future we have
should advanced economics designed to make things good for people.
>
>Your life should, and does in reality anyway, have a value to you and
>to those you want it to have a value to. You and you alone know the
>values of your life, and the more that others do, the greater your
>chances of your survival and happiness become.
>
>In order to survive and in order to live according to your values, then
>it is a fact your life must have an ultimate standard that you judge
>your ideas and your actions against.
>
>Now, if you regard human life as the standard of all your moral values,
>which is saying, if *your life is your ultimate standard of all of your
>moral values*, which means only YOU ought be the sole benefactor and
>the sole decider of the results of your ideas, energy and values, then
>it becomes very easy to determine or judge whether an idea or action is
>in harmony or in contradiction of that standard, doesn't it?
If you live in a community you may have to defend it. If this
community is invaded, all able bodied men should be forced to fight to
defend the community. This is one of the costs of living in
civilization. Ultimately the community is more important than the
individual life.
>
>Now, back to the capitalist's moral idea of *lessor for greater value
>exchange*, which can be called, his pursuit of rational and moral
>profit.
>
>For an example, in exchanging lessor for greater value, would you
>exchange $2 for a cabbage if you could grow one yourself for $0.05c and
>derive a pleasure from doing it, or if you could get a bigger one for
>$1.50c up the road?
That is not the only hypothetical situation. Here is another one:
Suppose someone is in a desert and very thirsty. A Capitalist lands
his plane and offers to sell a bottle of water. The price of the water
is the thirsty persons house, car, and everything else he has. This is
capitalism. A decent person would just give the guy the water. Greed
is one of the things we should put a stop to, whether the greedy like
it or not. We should dismiss their arguments of how fair it is. If it
results in the few very rich and the many very poor, and it does, we
should not want Capitalism.
>
>or
>
>Would you sell the results of your mind and energy to an employer for
>$20 per hour, if you could stay home and earn $30 per hour working for
>yourself with no hassles?
Here is a more common example:
Chinese workers pay, in U.S. money is from $600 to $1200 a year. They
live in company dormitories with free food. They work 14 hours a day,
seven days a week.
Capitalists call this "freedom" because they are not forced to work
there and they can quit any time. And Capitalists are free to pay them
as little as possible.
As more and more Americans lose their jobs to third world workers, the
capitalists will tell us that we need more capitalism, and we need to
abolish such things as the minimum wage so we can "compete" with the
third world. Then they can set up the dormitories here and we can work
14 hours a day and seven days a week. It's all based on "supply and
demand". Unfortunately for human beings there is a big supply of us
people.
Actually, Capitalism is a bogus concept. We don't have to put up
with this greed. We could do what J. P. Morgan suggested - that a
business leader should not be allowed to make more than 20 times the
average nonexecutive wage of his workers. This shares the wealth. The
business leader is forced to pay his workers more, while at the same
time this idea keeps plenty of incentives for business leaders to
start new businesses.
>
>Now of course it is possible you might pay more for a cabbage than the
>market value, if the person selling it was your daughter or a friend,
>thats because you regard her as a greater value to you than how much
>you spend on a cabbage.
>
>And of course it is possible that if you grew the cabbages, then you
>might give some of them away and for a couple of reasons (1) Because
>the person you give one to you know is poor and in genuine need, (2)
>because experience has shown you that people who see you give freely to
>the needy, will gladdly patronize your business.
>
>In summary, capitalism is the only moral politcal system known to man,
>why?
First we need to define what capitalism is. Capitalism is the
opposition to anything a government might do to make things better for
people. Actually I am for the free enterprise ideas above. But that
does not mean we should have no laws against greed. Capitalism is
amoral and materialistic:
Most people have a gut feeling that Capitalism is materialistic
and therefore there is something bad about it. But it needs to be
explained more clearly.
The first thing to notice is that people are not equal. We all
benefit from a few outstanding people like Edison and the Wright
brothers. We notice this everywhere. For example at an amusement park
thousands of people enjoy the roller coaster but how many have what is
takes to build a good one?
If everyone were equal in business, capitalism might work. The
capitalist theories of supply and demand would involve a lot of people
starting their own business. But as it is, Capitalism results in the
few with useless billions they could never spend and the many
struggling to survive.
The materialistic part of it is that a lot of people want to march
to different drummers. When it is time to go to the beach, who is
superior now, the bodybuilder or the doctor? People may have a passion
for chess or karate or any of thousands of other things that are not
done for money. Capitalism assumes that everyone has to have a passion
for making money.
People should be able to easily get a job and live comfortably on
it and pursue their passions if they march to the beat of a different
drummer. They should get less pay than those who are more useful in
business. But decent hard working citizens in a nation should have
good lives. This is more important than all the hype of how "fair"
Capitalism is and that no one is forced to accept a job.
Of course there is the bad kind of socialism where people don't work
and get money anyway. Who is talking about that nonsense? Everyone has
to work. But we should have a good socialism.
Capitalism is all about theories of supply and demand and boasts
that it that it has no interest in doing anything good for people
otherwise. They may boast that their idea is more macho and
independent. Actually it is more macho to fight the Scrooge types and
put them in their place whether they like it or not. Independence is
great in some ways, but we should be a nation of people who care about
each other. This is what makes things good.
>
>Because capitalism does not work, capitalism can not work unless it is
>the ultimate goal of ALL of the participants, the initial producers,
>the workers selling their skills to the producers, the buyers
>exercising their choice in where their money gets the best value,
>capitalism does not work unless all participants are engaged in the
>pursuit of a greater for lessor value, in a word PROFIT.
>
>NOTE Profit needs not always be expressed in $$$$ terms, profit is only
>the individual's perception of someone having had a positive gain,
>from their own lessor for greater exchange.
>
>This means that capitalism can not work unless people also have some
>losses.
>
We should have laws against greed. If capitalist fairness says that
someone can make billions while his workers are making pennies then
obviously such fairness is not the greatest good on earth.
>
>I've snipped the rest because communism is nothing more simple to
>explain than the exact opposite of all of the above explanations of
>what capitalism is, entirely and totally evil.
>
This is what capitalists believe:
1. There should be private property.
That is like saying 2 + 2 = 4
2. There should be free enterprise with a profit incentive.
That is like saying 3 + 3 = 6
3. There should be no laws restricting greed.
That is like saying 4 + 4 = 17
If you disagree with the third one they can't hear you or
understand you. They think you are disagreeing with the first two.
They think only Communists disagree with Capitalism.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
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