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Author: zero-sum-gamezero-sum-game Date: Apr 25, 2008 14:24
There can be a completely rational fantasy which admits of reality.
In a Virtual Reality simulation, that would be the case. This has
nothing to do, necessarily at least, with romanticism. A rationalist
inside a VR simulator would eventually no longer keep secrets, or
exist outside of communication groups. Secrecy is an irrationalist
mistake. There are thoughts which are not communicated. These are
unreasoned, because they cannot be evidenced by the mind of another
person. This denies consensus, and that is a building block of social
reality.
I hope I'm not boring you all. I just want to consider there to be
channels of communication that are open to critique of rationalism,
and even full expression of an "irrationalism" as a very vital force.
signing off,
scottf@ q.com
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: Apr 25, 2008 16:16
> There can be a completely rational fantasy which admits of reality.
> In a Virtual Reality simulation, that would be the case. This has
> nothing to do, necessarily at least, with romanticism. A rationalist
> inside a VR simulator would eventually no longer keep secrets, or
> exist outside of communication groups. Secrecy is an irrationalist
> mistake. There are thoughts which are not communicated. These are
> unreasoned, because they cannot be evidenced by the mind of another
> person. This denies consensus, and that is a building block of social
> reality.
>
> I hope I'm not boring you all. I just want to consider there to be
> channels of communication...
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Apr 25, 2008 21:50
On Apr 25, 7:16 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
The more you see your own individuality, the less the subconscious
dictates.
I needed to see that...thanks Brian....
K e v
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Author: knucmoknucmo Date: Apr 27, 2008 07:06
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:24:00 -0700 (PDT), zero-sum-game
peoplepc.com> wrote:
>There can be a completely rational fantasy which admits of reality.
>In a Virtual Reality simulation, that would be the case. This has
>nothing to do, necessarily at least, with romanticism. A rationalist
>inside a VR simulator would eventually no longer keep secrets, or
>exist outside of communication groups. Secrecy is an irrationalist
>mistake. There are thoughts which are not communicated. These are
>unreasoned, because they cannot be evidenced by the mind of another
>person. This denies consensus, and that is a building block of social
>reality.
I can have many beliefs which I do not wish to communicate that could
be considered rational - and in fact, it could even be rational in
some situations not to communicate what you believe.
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Author: XarxXarx Date: Apr 27, 2008 11:09
> Not boring at all, except to those who believe such truths will always be
> 'secret' to them :-).
>
> For what it is worth..I see virtual reality as 'shared reality, or group
> consciousness (or sub consciousness). There is a remarkable sub conscious
> synchronicity at work, be it in a swarm of bees or a human collective. The
> more you see your own individuality, the less the subconscious dictates.
>
> The individual becomes more cause (of himself) and less effect (of the
> group).
>
> BOfL
The idea of shared reality or group consciousness is very evident.
Humans have their own "reality" their own world and it is due to this common
ground that they can communicate with each other.
The reality...
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: Apr 27, 2008 16:37
"kevirwin" comcast.net> wrote in message
news:7cadffd5-b9ee-40d0-a79a-e7606dc0b923@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 25, 7:16 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
The more you see your own individuality, the less the subconscious
dictates.
I needed to see that...thanks Brian....
K e v
Another wonderful day.
Thanks Kev :-)
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Apr 27, 2008 16:46
On Apr 25, 5:24 pm, zero-sum-game peoplepc.com> wrote:> There can be a completely rational fantasy which admits of reality.
> In a Virtual Reality simulation, that would be the case. This has
> nothing to do, necessarily at least, with romanticism. A rationalist
> inside a VR simulator would eventually no longer keep secrets, or
> exist outside of communication groups. Secrecy is an irrationalist
> mistake. There are thoughts which are not communicated. These are
> unreasoned, because they cannot be evidenced by the mind of another
> person. This denies consensus, and that is a building block of social
> reality.
>
> I hope I'm not boring you all. I just want to consider there to be
> channels of communication that are open to critique of rationalism,
> and even full expression...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Apr 27, 2008 16:50
On Apr 27, 7:37 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:> "kevirwin" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> news:7cadffd5-b9ee-40d0-a79a-e7606dc0b923@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 25, 7:16 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The more you see your own individuality, the less the subconscious
> dictates.
>
>
> I needed to see that...thanks Brian....
>
> K e v
>
> Another wonderful day.
>
> Thanks Kev :-)
is this like taking a placebo philosophical supplement?
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Apr 27, 2008 21:26
On Apr 27, 7:50 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>
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>> The more you see your own individuality, the less the subconscious
>> dictates.
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>> I needed to see that...thanks Brian....
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>> K e v
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Apr 27, 2008 23:03
On Apr 28, 12:26 am, kevirwin comcast.net> wrote:> On Apr 27, 7:50 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>>> The more you see your own individuality, the less the subconscious
>>> dictates.
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>>> I needed to see that...thanks Brian....
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>>> K e v
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