On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
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>In article <834l74tho3r6058frh9dt2v2bic9bi7884@
4ax.com>, Beau Blue says...
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>>On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
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>>>>>In article
4ax.com>, Beau Blue says...>>>>
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>>>>>The divide
>>>>>grew between the two as time went on as I listened to his repetitions of 'yes we
>>>>>can' backed by little substance. It made me nervous.
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>>>>Well, instead of just listening, K .. maybe you should go to his
>>>>website and read the substance of his positions. Read about his health
>>>>care plan, (not as good as Hillary's, true - but the plan HAS
>>>>substance and is a whole lot more palatable than what McCain talks
>>>>about), his positons on defense, energy and the environment, seniors
>>>>and social security, and any of 30 other issues, from Defence to
>>>>Women's issues. Each write up is comprehensive, substantive and a damn
>>>>site better than anything the Repugs are touting (more of the same as
>>>>the last 8 years). This "backed by little substance" is classic Repug
>>>>dogmatic attack shit they hurl at everybody that's a Dem that runs
>>>>against 'em.
>>>>
>>>>So, you vote for Obama in the primaries and then start quoting Repug
>>>>propaganda out the side of your face now that he's got the nomination
>>>>and you're too hurt for Hillary losing?
>>>>
>>>>Your "backed by little substance" indicates that you don't know how to
>>>>read, but I know better - so it must be spite and spit to make sure he
>>>>loses the general cause you're too angry a women can't be Pres this
>>>>time around.
>>>>
>>>>Go read what's on his website! Or continue to spit and cry, I don't
>>>>really care. But while you cry, realize what it is you're really
>>>>crying about .. and it AIN'T Obama's lack of substance. Lie to
>>>>yourself if you must, but don't lie to me .. I can read what's posted
>>>>to a website. If YOU can't, well ...
>>>>
>>>>-blue
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>>>Hi, Blue,
>>>
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>>GB,
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>sir.
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>>In the primaries I voted for Hillary. Karla for Obama. I support Obama
>>now. Karla supports the old white guy.
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>i'm not sure if that's the case, i can't speak for Ms. Karla, but i know Jeanne
>has been an ardent Hillary supporter since day one, and i thought Ms. K was as
>well, but i've been away, so i can't speak for Ms. K, but i'm pretty sure Ms.
>Jeanne voted for Ms. Hillary.
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>all parties are free to correct me, since i HAVE been away for a bit.
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>>I was disappointed that Karla, Jeanne, and thousands of others voted
>>for Obama. THEY defeated Hillary.
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>Obama has been an fascinating study for me. being close to the Bay Area, you
>might have heard stories and remembered remnants of Gavin Newsom's first run for
>mayor here in SF in 2003, when he ran against the highly idiotic Matt Gonzalez.
>no one really knew what Gonzalez stood for, even his supporters. people who
>supported just him sort of projected their own aspirations into him. much like
>they're doing with Obama now. all flavors of his supporters sort of see him as
>believing in what they believe in, when there's no evidence that he strongly
>believes in anything except that he would like to be president.
This is not true, GB. As I said, visit the website and read about his
positions.
Personally, I'd like him to publish a paper on what Habeas Corpus
means to him and what he'd do to roll back the Patriot Act's assault
on the Bill of Rights and how he'd go about criminally prosecuting
Rumsfeld and Cheney and Halliburton, but what there is there is enough
for me to know he believes in more than just wanting to be President.
California Dems, most of us anyway, wanted Hillary (baggage and all)
because we know how well her husband did (even tho' the Repugs DID
try to impeach him for getting a blow job on the side) at helping the
middle during his terms. But Hillary lost the nomination. Why? Because
Obama turned out to be a better politician and won more delegates.
Now, DEMS who voted for him during the primaries are upset with him -
for being a politician. Geez, do they really think a non-politician
will ever run for President? They need to grow up, quit crying, read
position papers and support the Democratic presidential nominee.
If they can't do that then they deserve the more war and torture and
declining living standards they'll get from old-white-guy-John. And
with John will come the conservative court that'll roll back Roe and
return society to backalley abortions. With John will come the
continued delusions of "winning" in Iraq (three years AFTER Bush's
declaration of 'mission accomplished'). With John will come more
Gitmos and Abu Graibs and allies deserting our side.
With Obama, that all goes away. You say you can't see that he'll do
that which he's been talking about doing for the last year? Well,
believe what you will, I know I do. Personally, I think you're being
disingenuous. A wee bit blind too. But that's just me.
-blue
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>>That's what they wanted. NOW,
>>they're deserting Obama and helping the Repugs. I can only assume that
>>was their plan all along. Obama had lots of Repug supporters during
>>the primaries, too, that'll now vote for McCain. Yep, lots of Dem
>>supporters, like Karla, who didn't want Hillary THEN and won't support
>>Obama NOW. it all looks like typical Repug bargaining-in-bad-faith to
>>me.
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>again, Ms. Karla and Ms. Jeanne may correct me if i'm wrong on this, but i was
>fairly sure they were both Hillary supporters from the beginning.
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>>But I gave up a while ago trying to figure out why Dems are sooooo
>>stupid. It must be a condition of belonging to the party.
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>i don't know. if i was in charge of the DNC, i would make sure that we studied
>the WINNING strategies of Bill Clinton and James Carville during the 1992 and
>1996 elections. remember those? ya know, where the Dems actually won?
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>and i would never let Howard Dean become chair of the DNC. that's like inviting
>your insane brother to manage your retirement fund.
>
>>So now, I'm resigned to four more years of war and torture and
>>continuous profiteering at the middle's expense. Hillary could have
>>won the general election, we all know that. It was KARLA, and others
>>like her, who saw to it that she didn't get to the general election
>>and now they're seing to it that Obama loses that election.
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>indeed.
>
>>Karla and Jeanne and a whole bunch of other Dems want old
>>white guys running things. Period. It's what they know and understand.
>>It's safe. Disgusting, but safe. They didn't vote for the woman in the
>>primaries and won't vote for the black man in the general. Presto!
>>White guy wins again. And for that, us old white guy Dems, who just
>>want the American dream back, will have to endure 4 more years of
>>Repug tyranny. It's sad.
>>
>>I blame Karla, you know?
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>again, Blue, i was really under the impression that Ms. J and Ms. K voted for
>Hillary in the primaries.
Well, I apologize to Jeanne then. Karla said she voted for Obama in
the primaries in this thread.
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>Most sincerely,
>
>GodBuilt
