On Jul 13, 4:52Â pm, Beau Blue
comcast.net> wrote:> On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
Yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>In article
4ax.com>, Beau Blue says...>
>>>>The divide
>>>>grew between the two as time went on as I listened to his repetitions of 'yes we
>>>>can' backed by little substance. It made me nervous.
>
>>>Well, instead of just listening, K .. maybe you should go to his
>>>website and read the substance of his positions. Read about his health
>>>care plan, (not as good as Hillary's, true - but the plan HAS
>>>substance and is a whole lot more palatable than what McCain talks
>>>about), his positons on defense, energy and the  environment, seniors
>>>and social security, and any of 30 other issues, from Defence to
>>>Women's issues. Each write up is comprehensive, substantive and a damn
>>>site better than anything the Repugs are touting (more of the same as
>>>the last 8 years). This "backed by little substance" is classic Repug
>>>dogmatic attack shit they hurl at everybody that's a Dem that runs
>>>against 'em.
>
>>>So, you vote for Obama in the primaries and then start quoting Repug
>>>propaganda out the side of your face now that he's got the nomination
>>>and you're too hurt for Hillary losing?
>
>>>Your "backed by little substance" indicates that you don't know how to
>>>read, but I know better - so it must be spite and spit to make sure he
>>>loses the general cause you're too angry a women can't be Pres this
>>>time around. Â
>
>>>Go read what's on his website! Or continue to spit and cry, I don't
>>>really care. But while you cry, realize what it is you're really
>>>crying about .. and it AIN'T Obama's lack of substance. Lie to
>>>yourself if you must, but don't lie to me .. I can read what's posted
>>>to a website. Â If YOU can't, well ... Â
>
>>>-blue
>
>>Hi, Blue,
>
> GB,
>
> In the primaries I voted for Hillary. Karla for Obama. I support Obama
> now. Karla supports the old white guy.
>
> I was disappointed that Karla, Jeanne, and thousands of others voted
> for Obama. THEY defeated Hillary. That's what they wanted. NOW,
> they're deserting Obama and helping the Repugs. I can only assume that
> was their plan all along. Obama had lots of Repug supporters during
> the primaries, too, that'll now vote for McCain. Yep, lots of Dem
> supporters, like Karla, who didn't want Hillary THEN and won't support
> Obama NOW. it all looks like typical Repug bargaining-in-bad-faith to
> me.
>
> But I gave up a while ago trying to figure out why Dems are sooooo
> stupid. It must be a condition of belonging to the party.
>
> So now, I'm resigned to four more years of war and torture and
> continuous profiteering at the middle's expense. Hillary could have
> won the general election, we all know that. It was KARLA, and others
> like her, who saw to it that she didn't get to the general election
> and now they're seing to it that Obama loses that election.
>
> Karla and Jeanne and a whole bunch of other Dems want old
> white guys running things. Period. It's what they know and understand.
> It's safe. Disgusting, but safe. They didn't vote for the woman in the
> primaries and won't vote for the black man in the general. Presto!
> White guy wins again. And for that, us old white guy Dems, who just
> want the American dream back, will have to endure 4 more years of
> Repug tyranny. It's sad.
>
> I blame Karla, you know?
>
> -blue
>
>
>
>>i think i need to agree with Ms. K here. Obama is priming himself for an upset
>>loss, and if you don't see the writing on the wall, than you're planning for
>>some heartache come the first week in November.
>
>>i would tend to say that you, and probably me as well, are probably more "left"
>>leaning than the average American. nothing wrong with that, but that little
>>tid-bit of fact has nothing to do with reality, and why i think Obama's gonna
>>lose, and why if the Dems wanted to take back the White House, they should have
>>nominated Hillary.
>
>>Obama's the greenest candidate the Dems have nominated since Winfield Hancock.
>>if someone says he's inexperienced, it's not a lie, he IS inexperienced, and
>>he's going up against a rather ruthless, an experienced politician in John
>>McCain. this fact seems to be too easily, and foolishly, dismissed by too many
>>Koolaide drinking Dems in the party. it's like the line that says "fools rush in
>>where angels fear to tread" thinking McCain would be an easy win. Obama hasn't
>>slung enough mud in his life as a politician to be ready for what's gonna happen
>>to him come the first of Sept. from the RNC. if he thinks otherwise, he's dumber
>>than i thought, and so's the DNC.
>
>>the Repos are the MASTERS of the divide and conquer political strategy, and have
>>been so since Richard Nixon in 1968, and it's worked beautifully for them. the
>>ONLY candidate in the last 40 years where this winning stragey hasn't worked was
>>with Bill Clinton.
>
>>and let's face it, kids, as a politician, Obama's not even in Bill's league. any
>>one who wants to argue that one is free to lose the argument.
>
>>so there's nothing there that tells me that Obama is ready for the war the RNC
>>has planned for him come September.
>
>>Obama was sold to us, via a friendly media freely exercising their white
>>liberal-guilt before the entire nation, as the NEW politician, as the DIFFERENT
>>politican, the politician of CHANGE. well, he's thrown the bill of rights, and a
>>woman's right to choose under the bus, all for political expediency, so i think
>>we can now safely say he's NOT any new kind of NEW politician, but just a
>>run-of-the-mill political hack from Illinois.
>
>>and wasn't that his greatest appeal? his greatest strength? that he wasn't a
>>standard politician? well, that's one's gone now, so what do we have left? in
>>one month he went from being the agent of change to a flip-flopping John Kerry.
>>and being John Kerry is not a winning strategy for getting back the White House.
>
>>and let's look at the realities of the electoral math. Obama is in danger in
>>Pennsylvania and Michigan. FUCK! as a Dem he should be ahead in those states by
>>7-10 points. Hillary polled far better in those states than McCain. and i'm
>>sorry to say, if Obama loses those two states in November, he won't be
>>president, i can assure you of that.
>
>>Also, Hillary delivered Ohio. she wasn't just competitive there, she DELIVERED
>>it, with garlic fries and a nice softdrink. Obama can't. and on the day Hillary
>>dropped out of the race Florida went from a 3 point Hillary lead to a 5 point
>>John McCain lead. and if Obama has to spend money in Michigan and Pennsylvania,
>>then the Dems can kiss Florida goodbye right now.
>
>>and we should speak of Obama's latest colossal mistake, and that was his "we
>>should teach our kids Spanish" speech of last week. i can't think of a more
>>gigantically stupid mistake he could have made than making that speech, and
>>saying those words. he's just given the RNC a non-stop ad that will run in every
>>suburb in Missouri, West Virginia, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and
>>New Hampshire from Labor Day to election night eve. now you might ask, is he
>>right? personally, i think he is! but that doesn't matter one fucking bit! THAT
>>statement, and his lecturing-toned "embarrassment" of the ugly American in
>>foreign countries was so unimaginatively stupid that it confirms something i've
>>been saying since March, that he's an egotistical neophyte who's starting to
>>believe his own press. a smart politician would have never said something that
>>stupid.
>
>>immigration is one of the biggest wedge issues between liberal and moderate Dems
>>(especially in the states I mentioned above), and he just handed the RNC the
>>best tool they could ask for to divide and conquer that all important
>>demographic.
>
>>i told a number of Obama Koolaide drinkers back when Hillary dropped out, that
>>if he was smart, the only three words that should come out of his mouth from now
>>until the last ballot is cast in Hawaii on election night is HEALTH CARE,
>>EDUCATION, ECONOMY. it was the only chance he had to win.
>
>>oh, and let's just wait until Debate Time. those are going to be embarrassments
>>for the Democratic party, i assure you. Obama is a lousy debater, pure and
>>simple. McCain is gonna eat him for lunch.
>
>>the fact is Obama, so far, has shown he's not up for the challenge that's coming
>>his way very soon. if he actually believes that the worst he's had to face,
>>election-wise, came from Hillary, then he's living in some wonderful fantasy
>>world, and so are far too many of his Koolaide drinking "believers."
>
>>the Dems had a couldn't-miss chance to take back the white house this November,
>>and have once again blown it by nominating a very weak candidate. great, it's
>>become an every 4 year tradition now. as a Democrat i'm being asked to once
>>again rally around another losing candidate who's generally out of touch with
>>what the average American feels. i'm getting tired of being told i'm suppose to
>>feel "proud." my white liberal guilt doesn't go that far any more. i want to
>>win. and the Dems aren't going to win in November, again.
>
>>Most sincerely,
>
>>GodBuilt
Blue,
You are wrong. Hillary carried CA no matter how you voted.
Votes you mentioned cancelled each other out. David and I
and my grandaughter and her friends who are in London, etc.,
voted for Hillary, too. The only old white guy we liked was you,
no matter how many times you wrongly castigate Karla. As
Obama supporters say, facts change, so folks change views..;>
McCain could win because JR and others who read electoral
college maps before the primary ended also know as I do from
Bev Harris Black Box Voting that Diebold now posing under
another name has new plans. Obama's hubris may trip him,
it happens. May Hillary the helpful be there to catch him.
Jeanne
