On Jul 14, 11:36Â am, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
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>>On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
Yahoo.com> wrote:>
>>>In article
4ax.com>, Beau Blue says...>
>>>>>The divide
>>>>>grew between the two as time went on as I listened to his repetitions of 'yes we
>>>>>can' backed by little substance. It made me nervous.
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>>>>Well, instead of just listening, K .. maybe you should go to his
>>>>website and read the substance of his positions. Read about his health
>>>>care plan, (not as good as Hillary's, true - but the plan HAS
>>>>substance and is a whole lot more palatable than what McCain talks
>>>>about), his positons on defense, energy and the  environment, seniors
>>>>and social security, and any of 30 other issues, from Defence to
>>>>Women's issues. Each write up is comprehensive, substantive and a damn
>>>>site better than anything the Repugs are touting (more of the same as
>>>>the last 8 years). This "backed by little substance" is classic Repug
>>>>dogmatic attack shit they hurl at everybody that's a Dem that runs
>>>>against 'em.
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>>>>So, you vote for Obama in the primaries and then start quoting Repug
>>>>propaganda out the side of your face now that he's got the nomination
>>>>and you're too hurt for Hillary losing?
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>>>>Your "backed by little substance" indicates that you don't know how to
>>>>read, but I know better - so it must be spite and spit to make sure he
>>>>loses the general cause you're too angry a women can't be Pres this
>>>>time around. Â
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>>>>Go read what's on his website! Or continue to spit and cry, I don't
>>>>really care. But while you cry, realize what it is you're really
>>>>crying about .. and it AIN'T Obama's lack of substance. Lie to
>>>>yourself if you must, but don't lie to me .. I can read what's posted
>>>>to a website. Â If YOU can't, well ... Â
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>>>>-blue
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>>>Hi, Blue,
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>>GB,
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> sir.
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>>In the primaries I voted for Hillary. Karla for Obama. I support Obama
>>now. Karla supports the old white guy.
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> i'm not sure if that's the case, i can't speak for Ms. Karla, but i know Jeanne
> has been an ardent Hillary supporter since day one, and i thought Ms. K was as
> well, but i've been away, so i can't speak for Ms. K, but i'm pretty sure Ms.
> Jeanne voted for Ms. Hillary.
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> all parties are free to correct me, since i HAVE been away for a bit.
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>>I was disappointed that Karla, Jeanne, and thousands of others voted
>>for Obama. THEY defeated Hillary.
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> Obama has been an fascinating study for me. being close to the Bay Area, you
> might have heard stories and remembered remnants of Gavin Newsom's first run for
> mayor here in SF in 2003, when he ran against the highly idiotic Matt Gonzalez.
> no one really knew what Gonzalez stood for, even his supporters. people who
> supported just him sort of projected their own aspirations into him. much like
> they're doing with Obama now. all flavors of his supporters sort of see him as
> believing in what they believe in, when there's no evidence that he strongly
> believes in anything except that he would like to be president.
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>>That's what they wanted. NOW,
>>they're deserting Obama and helping the Repugs. I can only assume that
>>was their plan all along. Obama had lots of Repug supporters during
>>the primaries, too, that'll now vote for McCain. Yep, lots of Dem
>>supporters, like Karla, who didn't want Hillary THEN and won't support
>>Obama NOW. it all looks like typical Repug bargaining-in-bad-faith to
>>me.
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> again, Ms. Karla and Ms. Jeanne may correct me if i'm wrong on this, but i was
> fairly sure they were both Hillary supporters from the beginning.
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>>But I gave up a while ago trying to figure out why Dems are sooooo
>>stupid. It must be a condition of belonging to the party.
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> i don't know. if i was in charge of the DNC, i would make sure that we studied
> the WINNING strategies of Bill Clinton and James Carville during the 1992 and
> 1996 elections. remember those? ya know, where the Dems actually won?
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> and i would never let Howard Dean become chair of the DNC. that's like inviting
> your insane brother to manage your retirement fund.
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>>So now, I'm resigned to four more years of war and torture and
>>continuous profiteering at the middle's expense. Hillary could have
>>won the general election, we all know that. It was KARLA, and others
>>like her, who saw to it that she didn't get to the general election
>>and now they're seing to it that Obama loses that election.
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>>Karla and Jeanne and a whole bunch of other Dems want old
>>white guys running things. Period. It's what they know and understand.
>>It's safe. Disgusting, but safe. They didn't vote for the woman in the
>>primaries and won't vote for the black man in the general. Presto!
>>White guy wins again. And for that, us old white guy Dems, who just
>>want the American dream back, will have to endure 4 more years of
>>Repug tyranny. It's sad.
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>>I blame Karla, you know?
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> again, Blue, i was really under the impression that Ms. J and Ms. K voted for
> Hillary in the primaries.
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> Most sincerely,
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> GodBuilt
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> There Will Be Blood
GodBuilt,
You are correct and Blue is wrong about who I voted for
and will vote for. He does not read what I write. Old
white guys are like that...;> CA was carried by Hillary
and no vote for Obama by Karla or anyone who believed
he was a change politician at the time undoes that.
Our CA delegates supported Hillary then and if you look
at
http://www.together4us.com/index.html
you may see that Hillary supporters want to ensure
her/our issues are not overlooked as Obama moves
forward to November. Blaming Karla is not appropriate
because she has been helpful to Hillary thereafter.
I have no intention to vote for an old white guy, whether
his name is Blue or John. I will continue to annoy DNC
relative to the awarding of 59 Michigan delegates including
4 of the 73 Hillary earned when they ignored the voters,
assumed the uncommitted were for Obama and thereby
increased Obama's delegate count so the me-toos could
rush in and warp the delegate count further. This method
of penalizing Michigan votes was wrong and unprecedented.
Their half price penalty for Florida was bad enough, but this
arbitrary assignment of delegates by the state party members
was wrong. Denver's credential committee ought rectify that.
Mail today from Obama's group shows he has Hillary's list
which includes David and me. David sent dollars by mail;
I used the site until I maxed out--a first in my life for any
candidate and I've made no contributions yet to Obama
as SV boyos are working the system to take care of him.
I look forward to the Hillary T Shirt and deciding who among
my friends and relatives deserves it as I do not do T shirts,
I do blice from Eddie Bauer's sales of wrinkle resistant blice
which btw my local cleaner launders like a man's shirt for
my !.00 coupons collected from ago because I showed that
women's blice are the same as men's shirts and I ought not
be charged thrice over for the same type shirt. Hillary would
laugh and get the point, but old white guys who have not a
clue about the cost of condoms even when they discard
a crippled first wife and marry an heiress to a beer empire
would not see why my getting my blice done for the same
price (ought even be less, it is smaller..;>) as a like man's
shirt is a victory worth celebrating, like when I got the Feds
and the state to agree that couples ought decide vice the gov't
as to whose name will be first on tax returns. Mine is since
I fought them post the audit of my '82 return--all of which is to
say, Hillary supporters are an odd feisty lot that ought not
be counted out. Some of us are descended from battle axe
carrying woman warriors who like Druids and no old men
in long dresses prescribing religion which hobbled women's
feet more than merely breaking them as the Japanese did
for chuckles and a grand geisha. Ask about JR's mother about
whom I heard a little elsewhere and decided another feisty broad
is none too many and delighted that she like me voted for Hillary
as did many wise and thoughtful men like Stuart and JR. for
example. Blue's assumptions are just that. Wrong, but then
as attractive as he is in my recollection, he is the old white guy
he assumes bright broads might vote for if they were named McCain,
not so. Ever.
Jeanne
