In article giganews.com>, ggamble says...
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>"On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built"
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>> In article giganews.com>, ggamble
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>>>Her following is larger than msm may know. On several lists I see many
>>>of all ages
>>>who are still appalled about the outcome, but that was pre-ordained,
>>>imo. Zero
>>>probability of a woman as president, imo.
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>>>**Jeanne,
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>>>With all due respect:
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>>>When the primary process started, I supported Hillary.
>>>She lost the nomination process because:
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>>>1) She ran a terrible and disorganized campaign. She consistently changed
>>>her message due to the wrangling with her senior campaign advisors which
>>>finally resulted in the firing of many of those advisors.
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>>>2) No one could put a muzzle on Bill. Her campaign was effectively over
>>>when Bill made the Jesse Jackson remark in South Carolina.
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>>>3) The vote on Iraq which you mentioned in your previous post.
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>> 4) the rather silly an always moronically tragic element of the Dem party
>> voted
>> in a figure that all the very silliest of Dem splinter groups projected
>> their
>> silliest of beliefs in. Obama had a great ability to be all things to all
>> people
>> and never really anything of substance.
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>> and now we see that he's more than willing to throw anything and
>> everything
>> under the bus for his own advancement.
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>> which does not make him the "different" politician, the politician of
>> "change,",
>> it makes him a very run of the mill politician, and from the events of the
>> last
>> few weeks, not a very good one.
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>> i've seen nothing that tells me with profound confidence that Obama can
>> beat
>> McCain. you are cocooned in the embrace of the American media and false
>> electoral math, Gary! wake up and smell the coffee of middle America.
>> that's
>> where he needs to win, and that's where he's in trouble.
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>> Obama is Michael Dukkakis and John Kerry, Gary, not JFK. and even with
>> JFK, if
>> Big Daddy Joseph P.K. hadn't spent all that money in Texas and Illinois,
>> JFK
>> would probably have retired as the junior senator from MA 10 years ago.
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>> Most Sincerely,
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>> GodBuilt
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>> There Will Be Blood
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>The question was posed by someone: How will the Democrats manage to fuck
>this one up?
they did that by nominating Obama.
>By reading all this, I think we have our answer.
i would agree. heh...
>The candidate can't even energize his base. But then, McCain can't energize
>his base either, apparently he's not Conservative enough. jesus fuck.
here's a simple truth that should bother Senator Jonestown... the Repo base
won't stay home. they're gonna vote for McCain, even if they don't like him. The
Dems may just stay home, or write in Hillary's name, or vote down-ticket, but
they're not slappy-happy with Obama.
>So, we'll see how this all pans out. The Rovian wing of the fear party will
>crank out their usual while the Democrats collectively fall on their swords.
>Wonderful.
PRECISELY!!! welcome to the benefits of making Howard Dean the chair of the DNC!
he so hates the moderate, and larger, wing of the Democratic party that's he
more than willing to see the Dems go down in flames than allow Hillary a chance
at being president.
greatest thing that could happen to the Democratic party?
greatest/best/most/important thing that could happen to the Democratic party?
Obama loses the upcoming general by 300 electoral votes!
i pray for that. i want to save my party.
>No wait! Why does the Republican hate/fear machine even need to bother to
>get cranked up? They should just stand back and watch the Hillary
>supporters do their dirty work for them. The Republicans must be laughing
>their collective asses off. Every time one of you uses the term
>*flip-flop*, you should nod to Karl Rove. In fact, this whole hysteria
>about flip flopping is pretty fucked in the first place, don't ya'll think?
then they should have nominated Hillary. she could have won. Obama won't. and if
he's a flip-flopper, which he is, he only has himself to blame.
remember what i pray for!!!
>Scurry on down and look at someone's voting record or off the cuff
>utterances at some whistle stop eight years ago to try to find some gotcha
>discrepancy on some issue no matter how trivial and Behold! This Person Has
>Flip Flopped! They aren't steadfast and resolute in their beliefs. They may
>have adapted to current conditions and reassessed the situation and changed
>their mind on something. Jesus Fuck! We can't have that! In order to be a
>successful public figure, one must stick with the first position one ever
>held on every single issue and Never Ever Change That Position Ever, lest
>they be labeled a dreaded flip-flopper. Wonderful. Really.
but remember! Senator Jonestown was sold to us the Great Different Politician!
The Agent of Change!!!! now we know he's just a run of the mill political hack
like all the rest of them.
whereas the Dems could have nominated a candidate that could have won.
so great, on election night all the talking heads in the Idiot Wing of the
Democratic party, along with their lovers in the media, can give all these great
"we can take pride in a well fought, but losing campaign" speeches that they
want. the fact will remain, John McCain will have his hand on the Bible come
January 20th. hooray!!! another glorious and stupid defeat for the Democratic
party!! YAY!!!
300 hundred electoral votes i hope McCain wins by! it would save the Democratic
party.
>I wish your glorious leader George W Bush had flip-flopped a little more in
>regard to some of his disastrous positions. But no, he's resolute and
>steadfast in his positions, yes sireee. There's no fucken way he's going to
>reassess a situation and modify his position in the face of new
>developments.
time to get over the Florida vote in the 2000 election. it was rigged, it was a
sham, it was fucked, time to move on.
>But I digress. We shouldn't speak of issues, or the crimes committed by the
>current administration, or the deficit they created, or the fact that the
>next administration might get to appoint a few scotus justices, or the price
>of gas, or the upcoming eruption of the commodities markets, no, we need to
>rip the only chance we have to actually govern a new asshole because he
>isn't Bill Clinton, or because he has a wing-nut for a spiritual advisor, or
>because he's too young, or because he moved his campaign headquarters closer
>to where he lives, or because he isn't street smart enough, or because he's
>too street smart, or because his wife is brilliant.
not at all. it's just that he's gonna lose. and he'll lose because of his own
mistakes. and i will be told that i must accept that fact.
so, i pray for a 300 electoral vote win for McCain so that the Democratic party
can be saved.
>By all means, don't examine what has possibly been the most disastrous
>administration in the history of the United States. Concentrate your efforts
>on trashing the only person who could possibly fix what has happened over
>the last eight years.
how can Senator Jonestown save the world if he can't get elected president?
>So, let's hear some predictions regarding what the Republican hate and fear
>machine is going to trot out this time.
check out the post i made to JJ's post.
what scares me most? is that Obama will lose by a close vote. then FUCK, the
party will be back to the stupidity strategy that gave us Humphrey, McGovern,
Cater, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry. YAY!!!! lucky us, huh?
>1) Will they try gay marriage again?
nah, that ship has sailed and they know it.
>2) Will they get the Israelis to bomb Iran?
i'm not so offended by that, if it's necessary.
>3) Maybe they reprise the old J.Edgar Hoover/MLK playbook, that was good for
>a barrel of laughs.
nope, all they have to do is keep waiting for Senator Jonestown to make newer
and bigger mistakes. and he will.
>Insert your predictions here.
it doesn't matter how right Obama may be on any issue, he needs to realize that
being right is meaningless in a political campaign.
most sincerely,
GodBuilt
p.s Jed Bartlett was a great president, but the problem is he never existed.
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"I am a false prophet and God is a superstition.." "Again!"
There Will Be Blood