On Jul 13, 6:07Â am, "ggamble"
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>>> In article
giganews.com>, ggamble
>> says...>
>
>>>Her following is larger than msm may know. On several lists I see many
>>>of all ages
>>>who are still appalled about the outcome, but that was pre-ordained,
>>>imo. Zero
>>>probability of a woman as president, imo.
>
>>>**Jeanne,
>
>>>With all due respect:
>
>>>When the primary process started, I supported Hillary.
>>>She lost the nomination process because:
>
>>>1) She ran a terrible and disorganized campaign. She consistently changed
>>>her message due to the wrangling with her senior campaign advisors which
>>>finally resulted in the firing of many of those advisors.
>
>>>2) No one could put a muzzle on Bill. Â Her campaign was effectively over
>>>when Bill made the Jesse Jackson remark in South Carolina.
>
>>>3) The vote on Iraq which you mentioned in your previous post.
>
>> 4) the rather silly an always moronically tragic element of the Dem party
>> voted
>> in a figure that all the very silliest of Dem splinter groups projected
>> their
>> silliest of beliefs in. Obama had a great ability to be all things to all
>> people
>> and never really anything of substance.
>
>> and now we see that he's more than willing to throw anything and
>> everything
>> under the bus for his own advancement.
>
>> which does not make him the "different" politician, the politician of
>> "change,",
>> it makes him a very run of the mill politician, and from the events of the
>> last
>> few weeks, not a very good one.
>
>> i've seen nothing that tells me with profound confidence that Obama can
>> beat
>> McCain. you are cocooned in the embrace of the American media and false
>> electoral math, Gary! wake up and smell the coffee of middle America.
>> that's
>> where he needs to win, and that's where he's in trouble.
>
>> Obama is Michael Dukkakis and John Kerry, Gary, not JFK. and even with
>> JFK, if
>> Big Daddy Joseph P.K. hadn't spent all that money in Texas and Illinois,
>> JFK
>> would probably have retired as the junior senator from MA 10 years ago.
>
>> Most Sincerely,
>
>> GodBuilt
>
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> "I am a false prophet and God is a superstition.." "Again!"
>
>> There Will Be Blood
>
> The question was posed by someone: Â How will the Democrats manage to fuck
> this one up?
>
> By reading all this, I think we have our answer.
>
> The candidate can't even energize his base. Â But then, McCain can't energize
> his base either, apparently he's not Conservative enough. Â jesus fuck.
>
> So, we'll see how this all pans out. Â The Rovian wing of the fear party will
> crank out their usual while the Democrats collectively fall on their swords.
> Wonderful.
>
> No wait! Â Why does the Republican hate/fear machine even need to bother to
> get cranked up? Â They should just stand back and watch the Hillary
> supporters do their dirty work for them. Â The Republicans must be laughing
> their collective asses off. Â Every time one of you uses the term
> *flip-flop*, you should nod to Karl Rove. Â In fact, this whole hysteria
> about flip flopping is pretty fucked in the first place, don't ya'll think?
>
> Scurry on down and look at someone's voting record or off the cuff
> utterances at some whistle stop eight years ago to try to find some gotcha
> discrepancy on some issue no matter how trivial and Behold! Â This Person Has
> Flip Flopped! They aren't steadfast and resolute in their beliefs. They may
> have adapted to current conditions and reassessed the situation and changed
> their mind on something. Â Jesus Fuck! We can't have that! In order to be a
> successful public figure, one must stick with the first position one ever
> held on every single issue and Never Ever Change That Position Ever, lest
> they be labeled a dreaded flip-flopper. Â Wonderful. Â Really.
>
> I wish your glorious leader George W Bush had flip-flopped a little more in
> regard to some of his disastrous positions. Â But no, he's resolute and
> steadfast in his positions, yes sireee. Â There's no fucken way he's going to
> reassess a situation and modify his position in the face of new
> developments.
>
> But I digress. Â We shouldn't speak of issues, or the crimes committed by the
> current administration, or the deficit they created, or the fact that the
> next administration might get to appoint a few scotus justices, or the price
> of gas, or the upcoming eruption of the commodities markets, no, we need to
> rip the only chance we have to actually govern a new asshole because he
> isn't Bill Clinton, or because he has a wing-nut for a spiritual advisor, or
> because he's too young, or because he moved his campaign headquarters closer
> to where he lives, or because he isn't street smart enough, or because he's
> too street smart, or because his wife is brilliant.
>
> By all means, don't examine what has possibly been the most disastrous
> administration in the history of the United States. Concentrate your efforts
> on trashing the only person who could possibly fix what has happened over
> the last eight years.
>
> So, let's hear some predictions regarding what the Republican hate and fear
> machine is going to trot out this time.
>
> 1) Will they try gay marriage again?
> 2) Will they get the Israelis to bomb Iran?
> 3) Maybe they reprise the old J.Edgar Hoover/MLK playbook, that was good for
> a barrel of laughs.
>
> Insert your predictions here.
Gary,
We who have examined the present administration ad infinitium and have
no white
guilt given a plethora of black relatives and friends recognized
divide and conquer
in an Obama campaign as Rovian early on. The present smirks seem Bush-
lite
from those supporters confident they have us by the short and curlies.
We know
those smirks; we resent them. Of course, we have no choice, may do
what Hillary
asked of us: vote for Obama. She is far more gracious than I would be
after my
early assessment of what was going on as I followed the money and
ascertained
who benefits from an Obama outcome. Beyond Penn the greedy and Bill
who used
to be the first black president per Morrison, I saw John Lewis
pressured even as
Whoopi Goldberg (who still smokes per her appearance on Kimmel the
other night,
yeah, Whoopi!) Maxine Waters, Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, Maya Angelou,
Judge Judy
and other women I admire supported Hillary for reasons beyond race and
gender
because they, like me, vote with their money because we exchanged our
lives for it
and do not wish to waste it on people and products not worth that
investment. We
are now asked to roll over for a setup by a faith-based group
pretending to be change
agents? Having no choice because we want no McCain means swallowing
stuff
that gags us. We must go along to get along. C-SPAN had Black Elders
discussing
how to motivate young AA men the other night. An elder running an
Underground
Museum said that Bill Clinton was the new Man and must be discarded
for Obama.
I thought about loyalty and gratitude and why I value those qualities
and why I was
shocked when John Lewis and others caved in to pressure to support
Obama who
is more his mother's son than any Wright Church could make him a
Wright bro-son
and I was simply sickened. Same effect when I heard from Richardson,
now sucking
up to be VP a la the latino connections. I thought about Bill's Harlem
office and the
work invested in restoring a neighborhood because he is the decent
sort and wondered
how he felt hearing Richardson and a dozen others who rolled over out
of fear from mobs.
Having followed the clever plot to select Obama from the beginning, I
saw the divide and
conquer early on and was not surprised at the success of having folks
roll over. All me-toos
got on board the train clearing the tracks of those who could not
type...;> (As a soon to
be ex-boss, I taught myself to type in 1994 via an Adam tape on
relative's game machine
because I knew no secretaries would follow me into retirement.)
Silicon Valley smart guys
seeking employment and payoffs set up Obama per last month's Atlantic.
Shrewd move,
postures Obama as a with it youngster of sorts as per their plan. His
opportunistic bent
sent him to Trinity via a Catholic entity back in Chicago to get his
notches in brotherhood.
I saw all that ago. I intuited the outcome because Rovian tactics
always catch my eye.
I've supported every impeach George group from day one. I wrote MSNBC
daily until they
gave Keith a contract, then watched in horror as he reacted to Hillary
laughing at his Dana
Perino-like question during an interview before Gene Robinson worked
his will and helped
Keith get stupid because a laugh twisted his testicles so he joined
the Matthews and
minions dumping daily on Hillary. Time and again, I've seen folks who
ought know better
roll over and do a me-too such that I am embarrassed for them being
unaware of how
dumb they are. They decided one by one to get on the train (note no
bus metaphor) so
they are swept from the tracks by the Chicago special who is no
accident, but so well
financied by interests not blind to outcomes arising from messiahs
mouthing platitudes.
When I first used the KoolAid expression many months ago, the Obama
supporters deemed
me racist. When I asked why sheeple who are conditioned consumers are
flocking to this
new product, someone said I must be over thirty. My grand daughter
voted for Hillary, she
is not stupied. Her college chums voted for Hillary, they are street
smart folks. My daughter
who still does religion voted for Obama, then I began to see that
freethinkers were pro- Hillary
and those who need KoolAid are thirsty for an Obama. We who prefer to
pay the competent
to preside vice the charismatic to lead others to the promised land
have been castigated.
As Stuart mentioned, George Carlin makes sense at this juncture for
the thinkers left among
us. We who must march lock-step to vote for a democrat refuse to drink
the KoolAid. We who
wrote months ago about such matters can say I told you so, but we have
no choice in November
but to vote for Obama. It rankles me to read what old guyos here say
about our views, but hey,
justify away. Keep smirking as most go to the polls and roll over
without drinking the KoolAid.
You won. The beloved country lost and Rove and the boys in the back
got exactly what they want.
Jeanne
