In article <487977C4.7050603@
skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman says...
>> On Jul 12, 6:55 pm, On The Highways and Bi-Ways God Built
>>
Yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>In article
giganews.com>, ggamble says...
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>>>>Her following is larger than msm may know. On several lists I see many
>>>>of all ages
>>>>who are still appalled about the outcome, but that was pre-ordained,
>>>>imo. Zero
>>>>probability of a woman as president, imo.
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>>>>**Jeanne,
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>>>>With all due respect:
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>>>>When the primary process started, I supported Hillary.
>>>>She lost the nomination process because:
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>>>>1) She ran a terrible and disorganized campaign. She consistently changed
>>>>her message due to the wrangling with her senior campaign advisors which
>>>>finally resulted in the firing of many of those advisors.
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>>>>2) No one could put a muzzle on Bill. Her campaign was effectively over
>>>>when Bill made the Jesse Jackson remark in South Carolina.
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>>>>3) The vote on Iraq which you mentioned in your previous post.
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>>>4) the rather silly an always moronically tragic element of the Dem party voted
>>>in a figure that all the very silliest of Dem splinter groups projected their
>>>silliest of beliefs in. Obama had a great ability to be all things to all people
>>>and never really anything of substance.
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>>>and now we see that he's more than willing to throw anything and everything
>>>under the bus for his own advancement.
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>>>which does not make him the "different" politician, the politician of "change,",
>>>it makes him a very run of the mill politician, and from the events of the last
>>>few weeks, not a very good one.
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>>>i've seen nothing that tells me with profound confidence that Obama can beat
>>>McCain. you are cocooned in the embrace of the American media and false
>>>electoral math, Gary! wake up and smell the coffee of middle America. that's
>>>where he needs to win, and that's where he's in trouble.
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>>>Obama is Michael Dukkakis and John Kerry, Gary, not JFK. and even with JFK, if
>>>Big Daddy Joseph P.K. hadn't spent all that money in Texas and Illinois, JFK
>>>would probably have retired as the junior senator from MA 10 years ago.
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>>>Most Sincerely,
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>>>GodBuilt
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>>>"I am a false prophet and God is a superstition.." "Again!"
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>>>There Will Be Blood
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>> Yeah, GodBuilt! btw There Will be Blood is on my Netflix list.
>> We just viewed Gone Baby Gone; had No Country For Old Men
>> earlier in the week.
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>> You are correct, of course. Maybe Blue, Gary and DMH will
>> read this week's The Nation (I stopped being an Activist for
>> them when they endorsed Obama, boy were they surprised..;>)
>> and see all the Buyer's Remorse and surprise therein.
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>I read The Nation regularly (and - often enough - there is "buyer's
>remorse" there also), but you misunderstood me from the get-go, blinded
>as you were to reasoned discourse by your rather maniacal worship of the
>very flawed Hillary - who has only been spared radiating her own
>"buyer's remorse" because not enough people bought her in the first
>place. You bet there is - and will continue to be - disappointment
>associated with Obama - and every other candidate in the history of our
>republic. That's built into the nature of the game, and I wasn't looking
>for a messiah anyway. Am I aggravated - for instance - that Obama voted
>for the criminal FISA bill? You bet, just as I was aggravated (although
>less surprised) that Hillary voted for the war, and disappointed by her
>piss poor efforts in regard to universal healthcare, and a hundred other
>less-than-sterling efforts of hers. The only difference really is that
>Barack has further to fall than Hillary, who's been a Democratic party
>hack (since she stopped being a Republican party hack) for a lifetime
>now. I don't look for saviours, and there is every chance I won't vote
>this year either, although - feet to fire - Obama still is a better
>choice than an overt empty pantsuit named Hillary.
>
>dmh
Dale, i assure you that the RNC and John McCain nightly pray that Obama starts
an earnest discussion of the war in Iraq. that he be so stupid that he decides
he's going to take on the war in Iraq with the Republican nominee and make it an
outspoken campaign issue, make speeches on it, talk about it on Meet the Press.
nightly! they pray for this, i assure you. if Obama does this, the McCains can
start picking out furniture for the residence in the west wing of the White
House right now.
Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi will be running so fast away from Obama that
the most dangerous place in all of America will be the realestate between Nancy,
the entire Democratic congressional delegation, and the distance all of them can
achieve in putting miles and miles between them an Obama.
and let's just say, for laughs, if Obama DOES decide to condemn the war in Iraq,
saying it was a disaster, would he be right in saying so?
of course he would be. laughably right, Jesus' Sermon on the Mount right,
unbreakable St. Thomas Aquinas logical right, even.
and so what? he wins the Oxford debate! excellent. and he loses the election.
why? because the average American doesn't give a flying fuck-a-roo about the
war. they want to hear how their job is gonna be saved, how their kid's schools
are gonna get better, and how he or she are gonna pay for the hospital when they
get or their kids get sick.
Hillary's vote on the war is irrelevant to whether she could have won the
election or not. logic, facts, math and experience tell me she could have won
the general election, and why Obama won't.
and as for ANYONE being a Dem Party hack, now that we've seen Senator Jonestown
throw everything from a women right to choose to civil rights under the bus in a
desperate desire to pander to anything that moves, can we all agree that Obama,
can no longer call himself an agent of "change," or a "different" kind of
politician? he's just a run-of-the-mill, inexperience Dem party hack who's gonna
lose in November.
Most Sincerely,
GodBuilt
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"I am a false prophet and God is a superstition.." "Again!"
There Will Be Blood
