> In article <486215DF.2040...@skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman says...
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>>ggamble wrote:

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>>> "Dale Houstman" skypoint.com> wrote in message
>>>news:48618E33.90206@skypoint.com...

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>>>> ggamble wrote:

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>>>>> The Michigan and Florida delegations attempted to move the dates of
>>>>> their primaries against the rules of the DNC.
>>>>> They chose to ignore the rules.  The DNC had to enforce the rules,
>>>>> they had no choice.

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>>>>> The 50/50 delegate distribution was a compromise designed to not
>>>>> disenfranchise the voters.

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>>>>> How on earth can you hold on to this vast democratic party gender
>>>>> conspiracy theory by saying they *delivered to him on cue*.?

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>>>>> Sometimes the candidates we support don't win and we have to move on.
>>>>> Life and politics are full of compromises, there is no such thing as
>>>>> a perfect candidate.

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>>>>> Are you telling me that you're not going to cast a vote for President
>>>>> in November because the person you supported in the primaries didn't
>>>>> win the nomination?

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>>>>> Hillary and Bill are supporting Obama, what do you know that they don't?

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>>>>> Hell, I haven't voted since Carter because I'm an ex-pat, but I'm
>>>>> voting in this one.

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>>>> Voting has been a non-issue for me forever now, but I have two reasons
>>>> to vote this year: despite whatever general qualms I have about the
>>>> existence of invisible entrenched power overriding the effectiveness
>>>> of any political vote, I think I want to be a part of this
>>>> socio-cultural marvel. also, in my state, Al Franken is going up
>>>> against that human worm Norm Coleman, and I've voted against Norm
>>>> every chance I've gotten.

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>>>> Hillary was a dollop of old machinery lead. I wouldn't have have
>>>> walked two feet to vote for her.

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>>>> dmh

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>>> I hear ya, Dale, regarding the marvel of it all.

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>>> Who would've thought that anything would've bumped us both out of our
>>> cynicism.

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>>> Well, not totally, and not really cynicism, but you know what I mean.

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>>> Al Franken and Jesse Ventura?
>>> What kind of freak show are you running up there?
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>>Next year, an old Wayne Newton impressionist is running against a milk
>>carton juggling trannie for mayor of Floodville...

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>>As for Obama, let's just say he represents - for me - a fresh angle on
>>the soon-to-be disappointing. you gotta take your thrills where you can
>>get them. Hillary? I seriously don't understand the excitement over her
>>candidacy: she's a career shyster (a bad one by all accounts) and - as
>>the campaign revealed - one not above shoveling racism to stoke the
>>fires. Her getting behind that totally ridiculous "gas tax holiday"
>>idea, and quoting Karl Rove...well, that just frosted the pop-tart for
>>me. And the idea that she was "pushed out" is pure mirage.

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>>dmh

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> So much to say, so little time (I'm off for vacation), but...
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> Oh my, such a fresh angle the O has on FISA! Pander on now that you're the
> nominee.
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> And when it sounds good, the O agrees to campaign financing, and when he's the
> nominee does a 180.
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> The O now flips on NAFTA - indeed such a fresh angle.
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> His moving the DNC to Chicago. Now THAT is a fresh angle. It's a
> poem-in-waiting, Dale. The Dem's Descent. Only the O could get away with
> marrying the party to the Chicago machine.
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> About that machine... how refreshingly different the O is. His first senate race
> won without a fight because he challenged every prospective candidate on rules
> such as signatures printed and not signed in cursive; signature gatherers
> credentials; any possible impropiety. Once there were 4, then there was only the
> O.
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> Cross your heart and hope to die O's ties to Rezko stay buried.
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> I voted for the O on Super Tuesday. I hadn't done my homework and like you,
> wanted that fresh angle. At that time, Hillary hadn't separated her public self
> from Bill for me. I stand corrected. She's a politician but at least I know what
> she's done in the Senate, what she represents, what to expect. All sex aside.
> She is the better candidate. Damn, but we've been bamboozled once again.
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> Karla
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