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Re: Quine and residual contextualism         

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Author: J Jones
Date: Apr 22, 2008 14:19

Immortalist wrote:
> On Apr 21, 3:10 pm, J Jones aol.com> wrote:
>> The context-driven approach to meaning - that meaning is delivered
>> through a context, and not vice versa - led to so many problems that
>> soon Quine abandoned it and relented: translation - he conceded in his
>> seminal tome, "Word and Object" - is indeterminate and reference is
>> inscrutable. There are no facts when it comes to what words and
>> sentences mean. What subjects say has no single meaning or determinately
>> correct interpretation (when the various interpretations on offer are
>> not equivalent and do not share the same truth value). (see Vaknin)
>>
>> Certainly, there are no facts that tell us the meanings of sentences and
>> words. Just as in art there are no facts of composition or colour that
>> tell us the intended aesthetic experience.
>>
>> But where Quine went wrong was in claiming that where there are no facts
>> about words that can inform of us their meaning, then we can conclude
>> that their meaning is 'indeterminate'. Quine retains the context that
>> meaning arises from individual words or sentences. This is a property of
>> traslation and not of language. But language is emergent:
>> 'indeterminacy' may arise for translation but cannot arise for language.
>>
>> Translation may be indeterminate but then only because translation isn't
>> language, but a context-driven approach whose procedures are informed by
>> no more than the empty signs of language. But then again, the fact that
>> the signs are empty does not make them 'indeterminate'. The employment
>> of the term 'indeterminate' retains that very idea of contextualism that
>> Quine was trying to distance himself from.
>>
>> "What subjects say" is an entirely different project from that of
>> "translation".
>
> Attempt at a theory of meaning coherence with context;
>
> If a coherence theory of truth states that the truth of any (true)
> proposition consists in its coherence with some specified set of
> propositions and truth is primarily a property of whole systems of
> propositions and can be ascribed to individual propositions only
> derivatively according to their coherence with the whole, in general,
> then, truth requires a proper fit of elements within the whole system
> and the truth conditions of propositions consist in other propositions
> and even propositions about propositions have propositions as their
> truth conditions; then maybe the same idea would work for the source
> of meaning from context; for the infinte regress of meaning
> justification could confront the same dilemma as proposition
> justification where: any proposition requires a justification and any
> justification itself requires support, since nothing is true “just
> because”. This means that any proposition whatsoever can be endlessly
> questioned; If this regress of emperical justification does not
> terminate in basic emperical beliefs, then it must either: (1)
> terminate in unjustified beleifs; (2) go on infinitely (without
> circularity); (3) circle back upon itself in some way, then if there
> is no way to justify emperical beliefs apart from an appeal to other
> justified emperical beliefs, and if an infinite sequence of distinct
> justified beliefs is ruled out, then the presumably finite system of
> justified emperical beliefs can only be justified from within, by
> virtue of the relations of its component beliefs to each other,
> therefore a proper coherence theory of meaning being justified by
> context is realatively true if and only if this meaning justification
> coheres with a system of other beliefs, which together form a
> comprehensive account of reality
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherence_theory_of_truth
> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth-coherence/
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regress_argument
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> rest of your linked article reference;
>
> "Inscrutability (Quine later called it indeterminacy - SV) of
> reference (is) (t)he doctrine ... that no empirical evidence relevant
> to interpreting a speaker's utterances can decide among alternative
> and incompatible ways of assigning referents to the words used; hence
> there is no fact that the words have one reference or another" - even
> if all the interpretations are equivalent (have the same truth
> value).
>
> Meaning comes before context and is not determined by it.
> Wittgenstein, in his later work, concurred.
>
> Inevitably, such a solipsistic view of meaning led to an attempt to
> introduce a more rigorous calculus, based on concept of truth rather
> than on the more nebulous construct of "meaning". Both Donald Davidson
> and Alfred Tarski suggested that truth exists where sequences of
> objects satisfy parts of sentences. The meanings of sentences are
> their truth-conditions: the conditions under which they are true.
>
> But, this reversion to a meaning (truth)-determined-by-context results
> in bizarre outcomes, bordering on tautologies: (1) every sentence has
> to be paired with another sentence (or even with itself!) which endows
> it with meaning and (2) every part of every sentence has to make a
> systematic semantic contribution to the sentences in which they
> occur.
>
> Thus, to determine if a sentence is truthful (i.e., meaningful) one
> has to find another sentence that gives it meaning. Yet, how do we
> know that the sentence that gives it meaning is, in itself, truthful?
> This kind of ratiocination leads to infinite regression. And how to we
> measure the contribution of each part of the sentence to the sentence
> if we don't know the a-priori meaning of the sentence itself?!
> Finally, what is this "contribution" if not another name for ....
> meaning?!
>
> Moreover, in generating a truth-theory based on the specific
> utterances of a particular speaker, one must assume that the speaker
> is telling the truth ("the principle of charity"). Thus, belief,
> language, and meaning appear to be the facets of a single phenomenon.
> One cannot have either of these three without the others. It, indeed,
> is all in the mind.
>
> We are back to the minds of the interlocutors as the source of both
> context and meaning. The mind as a field of potential meanings gives
> rise to the various contexts in which sentences can and are proven
> true (i.e., meaningful). Again, meaning precedes context and, in turn,
> fosters it. Proponents of Epistemic or Attributor Contextualism link
> the propositions expressed even in knowledge sentences (X knows or
> doesn't know that Y) to the attributor's psychology (in this case, as
> the context that endows them with meaning and truth value).
>
> III. The Meaning of Life: Mind or Environment?
>
> On the one hand, to derive meaning in our lives, we frequently resort
> to social or cosmological contexts: to entities larger than ourselves
> and in which we can safely feel subsumed, such as God, the state, or
> our Earth. Religious people believe that God has a plan into which
> they fit and in which they are destined to play a role; nationalists
> believe in the permanence that nations and states afford their own
> transient projects and ideas (they equate permanence with worth,
> truth, and meaning); environmentalists implicitly regard survival as
> the fount of meaning that is explicitly dependent on the preservation
> of a diversified and functioning ecosystem (the context).
>
> Robert Nozick posited that finite beings ("conditions") derive meaning
> from "larger" meaningful beings (conditions) and so ad infinitum. The
> buck stops with an infinite and all-encompassing being who is the
> source of all meaning (God).
>
> On the other hand, Sidgwick and other philosophers pointed out that
> only conscious beings can appreciate life and its rewards and that,
> therefore, the mind (consciousness) is the ultimate fount of all
> values and meaning: minds make value judgments and then proceed to
> regard certain situations and achievements as desirable, valuable, and
> meaningful. Of course, this presupposes that happiness is somehow
> intimately connected with rendering one's life meaningful.
>
> So, which is the ultimate contextual fount of meaning: the subject's
> mind or his/her (mainly social) environment?
>
> This apparent dichotomy is false. As Richard Rorty and David Annis
> noted, one can't safely divorce epistemic processes, such as
> justification, from the social contexts in which they take place. As
> Sosa, Harman, and, later, John Pollock and Michael Williams remarked,
> social expectations determine not only the standards of what
> constitutes knowledge but also what is it that we know (the contents).
> The mind is a social construct as much as a neurological or
> psychological one.
>
> To derive meaning from utterances, we need to have asymptotically
> perfect information about both the subject discussed and the knowledge
> attributor's psychology and social milieu. This is because the
> attributor's choice of language and ensuing justification are rooted
> in and responsive to both his psychology and his environment
> (including his personal history).
>
> Thomas Nagel suggested that we perceive the world from a series of
> concentric expanding perspectives (which he divides into internal and
> external). The ultimate point of view is that of the Universe itself
> (as Sidgwick put it). Some people find it intimidating - others,
> exhilarating. Here, too, context, mediated by the mind, determines
> meaning.
>
> http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/54979
>

In a given framework, or context, truth and falsity have no bearing on
that framework, but only on the objects that arise in it. Objects taken
from, or considered from, different frameworks are neither true nor
false but incommensurable.
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