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Author: C3C3 Date: Aug 16, 2008 17:53
Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in
evildoers? Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing
to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent
in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other
people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from
happening and could care less what's in a person's heart. Which is
important to you and why?
One problem with simply preventing evil is that it's often done with
deterrant or force, and if that force is removed or can't be held,
evil people go right back to performing evil. Innocent people can also
be caught in the trap. You either end up with a system that is lax,
and evildoers get away, or that is too strict and innocent people are
wrongly punished.
C3
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 16, 2008 17:57
On Aug 17, 10:53 am, C3 aol.com> wrote:> Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in
> evildoers? Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing
> to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent
> in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other
> people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from
> happening and could care less what's in a person's heart. Which is
> important to you and why?
>
> One problem with simply preventing evil is that it's often done with
> deterrant or force, and if that force is removed or can't be held,
> evil people go right back to performing evil. Innocent people can also
> be caught in the trap. You either end up with a system that is lax,
> and evildoers get away,...
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Author: C3C3 Date: Aug 16, 2008 18:47
On Aug 16, 5:57�pm, "bigflet...@ gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:> On Aug 17, 10:53�am, C3 aol.com> wrote:
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>>> Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in
>> evildoers? �Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing
>> to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent
>> in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other
>> people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from
>> happening and could care less what's in a person's heart. � Which is
>> important to you and why?
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>> One problem with simply preventing evil is that it's often done with
>> deterrant or force, and if that force is removed or can't be held,
>> evil people go right back to performing evil. Innocent people can also
>> be caught in the trap. You either end up with a system that is lax, ...
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Author: JohnJohn Date: Aug 16, 2008 20:07
On Aug 17, 10:53 am, C3 aol.com> wrote:
> One problem with simply preventing evil is that it's often done with
> deterrant or force, and if that force is removed or can't be held,
> evil people go right back to performing evil. Innocent people can also
> be caught in the trap. You either end up with a system that is lax,
> and evildoers get away, or that is too strict and innocent people are
> wrongly punished.
That's rather bi-polar, don't you think? When an entire subject is
embraced with two terms, then something is certainly wrong. Besides,
your assertion is already contradicted in contemporary reality: you need
only to look outside of your comfort zone.
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Author: JohnJohn Date: Aug 16, 2008 20:12
C3 wrote:
> Are you accusing me of judging? What about our judicial system? It's
> composed by judges.
Infantile. "Uh, yea I suck but they do too."
> What I'm referring to more is helping people who are caught in sin to
> find their way out of it, not judging them.
In sin? Like what, taking the lord's name in vain? Working on Sunday?
Never mind, you know you are judging. You have taken a superior
position, standing on the shoulders of jesus.
> Institutes in the United States seem like a questionable way of
> dealing with bad actions or "deviant" behavior as it is often called.
And you would replace those 'institutes' with what? Your own, yes?
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 16, 2008 23:32
On Aug 17, 11:47 am, C3 aol.com> wrote:> On Aug 16, 5:57 pm, "bigflet...@ gmail.com" gmail.com>
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>>> On Aug 17, 10:53 am, C3 aol.com> wrote:>
>>> Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in
>>> evildoers? Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing
>>> to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent
>>> in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other
>>> people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from
>>> happening and could care less what's in a person's heart. Which is
>>> important to you and why?
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>>> One problem with simply preventing evil is that it's often done with
>>> deterrant or force, and if that force is removed or can't be held, ...
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