On Aug 2, 7:36 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 9:52 am, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
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>> Okay, first I acknowledge y'all (most of ye here probably) are of
>> different generations than ole
>> RobtCohen.
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>> So, given that semi-qualification up front, a 64 year ole alta cocker
>> is allowed to ponticate ad nauseam, which can be fun & also less than
>> fun
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>> I just listened to that prank call: Jewish girl tells parents she's
>> dating an Italian, and the radio personality plays the boyfriend: The
>> parents swallow the bait including the fishing rod & tackle box
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>> Needless to say
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>> It's more than a "shanda to the goyim"
>> non Jews>
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>> It's a Phillip Roth scene without the author
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>> Who needs an intellectual's truths & clever humor when ya got this
>> here taboo breaking internet ?
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>> Me & Ye, that's who
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>> I'll defensively first acknowledge that "Archie Buinker's" creator,
>> Norman Lear, says Arch is (also) about his own Father:
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>> Lear knows better than to merely stereotype for the cheap laugh,
>> though that what ALL IN THE FAMILY sometimes feels like
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>> That's what one-deminsion commercial media have done too damne much of
>> in history
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>> Exception
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>> Shakespeare's MERCHANT is much more complex than a villainous
>> predatory lender, as the author constructs & dramatizes the central
>> character Shylock
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>> People are folks, and we are them, or at least that's from where
>> "polititically correct" & introspective n.g. types come from
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>> Thus, expected afterward You Tube comments are that "Jews are racist."
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>> Well, no shite: Jews are people too. Gee whiz. It's a shanda.
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>> If that shocker is news to ....uh....a virgin minds, then the prank
>> call has f'ed-up a naive mind
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>> The NAZI admirer & wannabe makes his bread n butter cases portraying
>> Jewish people as less than human, devilish, unethical, hypocritical,
>> greedy, impure, conspiratorial ....and thus implicitly deservedly
>> damned to gas chambers & hell.
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>> Such is reality, and I try to deal with such as best I can.
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>> Somebody with a brain attacks Adam Sandler as perfidious, and
>> RobtCohen jumps into the duh-bait like it's cancer that needs
>> treatment
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>> One can't win against racially tinged stream of conscious obssessions-
>> confessions
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>> One can sometimes try
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> As you probably know there has been some mixing already, and there is
> probbly a "rate" of mixing, however small. Have you checked genetic
> histories to find out what that rate is now and in the past? How much
> mixing would be allowable before you became aroused by it? If there
> has always been some mixing that wasn't detectable, would that disturb
> the mother in the prank call? How much of this is learned tradition?
> Do different races care more or less about mixing? How have traditions
> influenced the idea of mixing.
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> In the Social Identity Theory, a person has not one, “personal self”,
> but rather several selves that correspond to widening circles of group
> membership. Different social contexts may trigger an individual to
> think, feel and act on basis of his personal, family or national
> “level of self”. Apart from the “level of self”, an individual has
> multiple “social identities”. Social identity is the individual’s self-
> concept derived from perceived membership of social groups. In other
> words, it is an individual-based perception of what defines the “us”
> associated with any internalized group membership. This can be
> distinguished from the notion of personal identity which refers to
> self-knowledge that derives from the individual’s unique attributes.
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> Social Identity Theory asserts that group membership creates ingroup/
> self-categorization and enhancement in ways that favor the in-group at
> the expense of the out-group. ...the mere act of individuals
> categorizing themselves as group members was sufficient to lead them
> to display ingroup favoritism. After being categorized of a group
> membership, individuals seek to achieve positive self-esteem by
> positively differentiating their ingroup from a comparison outgroup on
> some valued dimension. This quest for positive distinctiveness means
> that people’s sense of who they are is defined in terms of ‘we’ rather
> than ‘I’.
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> ...three variables whose contribution to the emergence of ingroup
> favoritism is particularly important.
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> A) the extent to which individuals identify with an ingroup to
> internalize that group membership as an aspect of their self-concept.
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> B) the extent to which the prevailing context provides ground for
> comparison between groups.
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> C) the perceived relevance of the comparison group, which itself will
> be shaped by the relative and absolute status of the ingroup.
> Individuals are likely to display favoritism when an ingroup is
> central to their self-definition and a given comparison is meaningful
> or the outcome is contestable.
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http://www.tcw.utwente.nl/theorieenoverzicht/Theory%%20clusters/Interp...
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http://www.learnpsychology.net/g/421
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> Social identity is a theory formed by Henri Tajfel and John Turner[1]
> to understand the psychological basis of intergroup discrimination. It
> is composed of four elements:
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> -Categorization: We often put others (and ourselves) into categories.
> Labeling someone a Muslim, a Turk, a Gimp or a soccer player are ways
> of saying other things about these people.
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> -Identification: We also associate with certain groups (our ingroups),
> which serves to bolster our self-esteem.
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> -Comparison: We compare our groups with other groups, seeing a
> favorable bias toward the group to which we belong.
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> -Psychological Distinctiveness: We desire our identity to be both
> distinct from and positively compared with other groups[2].
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> As developed by Tajfel, social identity theory is a diffuse but
> interrelated group of social psychological theories concerned with
> when and why individuals identify with, and behave as part of, social
> groups, adopting shared attitudes to outsiders. It is also concerned
> with what difference it makes when encounters between individuals are
> perceived as encounters between group members. Social identity theory
> is thus concerned both with the psychological and sociological aspects
> of group behaviour.
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re: mixing
There are verious percentages bandied around
The figure "Twenty-Five Percent" of Jews are in inter-marriages is the
figure I 've been holding for a coupla dozen or more years
The counter point to it that they're second marriages not involving
children of which I suppose is partly true too
"Partly" because many do involve bringing children into the absurd
world, including my own
There is nothing facile about the phenomena, and though it's not that
unusual, it's still "not fully normative"
Her parents and mine were not well-educated nor secular humanists
(credit Falwell & ilk for making this Voltarian phrase negative), and
both of us got cues in our childhoods against inter-marriage
To everyone's surprise, we've been married since 1970
Caveat: Of course I do not know if the YOU TUBE radio prank is real or
a put-on, though it seems to me more plausible than not, as I think
about it....I dunno if it's real though suspect the worse case, that
it is harsh & authentic shite