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Re: Poland made the correct decision         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Ariadne
Date: Aug 16, 2008 13:48

On 16 Aug, 21:37, snakehawk mailandnews.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 12:22 pm, Ariadne gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 16 Aug, 20:18,snakehawkmailandnews.com> wrote:
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>>> On Aug 16, 6:25 am, Ariadne gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 16 Aug, 12:55,snakehawkmailandnews.com> wrote:
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>>>> ****
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>>>> That will make two states, Israel and Poland,
>>>> that can decide without consulting the U.S.
>>>> Congress whether young U.S. soldiers will be killed and maimed
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>>>> ****
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>>>> Where's your evidence for that outrageous claim?
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>>> Don't you read the news? Or do you just follow FOX?  Polish officials
>>> confirmed that in the recently signed agreement between Poland and the
>>> United States government (not NATO, mind you), the United States and
>>> Poland have mutually agreed to immediate military assistance in case
>>> of "trouble."  Here are quotes from Poland's Prime Minister Donald
>>> Tusk from an article by the Associated Press on the agreement
>>> published August 15, 2008:
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>>> "WARSAW, Poland — Poland and the United States struck a deal Thursday
>>> that will strengthen military ties and put an American missile
>>> interceptor base in Poland."
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>>> "'We have crossed the Rubicon,' Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk
>>> said, referring to U.S. consent to Poland's demands after more than 18
>>> months of negotiations."
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>>> "In an interview on news channel TVN24, Tusk said . . . the deal also
>>> includes a 'mutual commitment' between the two nations to come to each
>>> other's assistance 'in case of trouble.'"
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>>> "Talking about the 'mutual commitment' part of the agreement, Tusk
>>> said the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would be too slow in
>>> coming to Poland's defense if threatened and the bloc would take
>>> 'days, weeks to start that machinery. Poland and the Poles do not want
>>> to be in alliances in which assistance comes at some point later — it
>>> is no good when assistance comes to dead people. Poland wants to be in
>>> alliances where assistance comes in the very first hours of — knock on
>>> wood — any possible conflict,' Tusk said."
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>>> Common sense should tell any rational reader that the United States
>>> will never require Poland's military help in anything.  Nevertheless,
>>> Bush has committed the United States to rush to join Poland in any
>>> conflict with any enemy, naturally including Russia.  It won't matter
>>> how the conflict comes about, whether Poland goads the enemy into
>>> attacking, or even whether Poland is the first to attack.  the United
>>> States is bound to send military forces into the conflict within hours
>>> after Poland invokes the agreement whether or not NATO decides to get
>>> involved.
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>>> In case anyone has forgotten, that's exactly how World War II
>>> started.  Britain and France made the same stupid agreement with the
>>> newly formed state of Poland.  But the Polish government was accused
>>> of mistreating Germans who were forced to live under Polish control by
>>> the Versailles Treaty.  Then Poland threatened to attack Germany, even
>>> mobilized its military.  When Hitler attacked Poland, Britain and
>>> France immediately declared war, even though Germany did not threaten
>>> either Britain or France.
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>>> The war-causing agreement between Poland and Britain was the same type
>>> of "mutual defense" agreement just signed by the bungling warmonger
>>> Bush.  If the stupid Bush had entered into a similar agreement with
>>> Georgia, we would be in World War III today.
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>> That's an awful lot of words and not one of them
>> is "Israel".- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> Oh, excuse me, Ariadne.  I didn't realize I was responding to a Jew.
> I would have known better than to continue discussing the dangers the
> U.S. will face because of the misguided agreement with Poland; I would
> have confined my remarks to addressing the problems always faced by
> the warmongering little Israel.

Five wars started by Arabs does not mean that
Israel is warmongering. Obviously.

Stick to facts.
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