Jerry Kraus wrote:
>
> On Aug 16, 11:07 am, "Bill Bonde { ''Well, boys, I reckon this is it,
> nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies'')"
> yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 16, 12:57 am, "Bill Bonde { ''Well, boys, I reckon this is it,
>>> nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies'')"
>>> yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>
>>>>> I stated exactly what will happen. All former Soviet Republics --
>>>>> including the Baltics and the Ukraine -- will be reunited with
>>>>> Russia. They should never have been seperated.
>>
>>>> Yer a Commie, ain' cha?
>>
>>>>> They are all
>>>>> Russians, or largely Russians.
>>
>>>> And you are a kook.
>>
>>> Bill, I'm trying to take a middle ground here. If you're too stupid
>>> to see that, I'm not really sure I can help you.
>>
>> Middle ground? You are prepared to give the Russians back their
>> Soviet empire claiming that those folks are mostly all Russians
>> anyway. Ukrainians aren't Russians, they are Ukrainians. They have
>> their own language. They were discriminated against under the
>> Soviet Union, for a time not even allowed to speak it. The people
>> of the other countries aren't Russians either, although you are
>> right that ethnically Russian people live in those countries to the
>> extent that the Soviet Union could encourage Russians to have as
>> many babies as possible, including having contests, giving prizes,
>> and then assign those families to places to change the racial mix.
>> Meanwhile the non-Russians were given free abortions and otherwise
>> discouraged from maintaining or increasing their numbers. There are
>> elements of genocide in doing that sort of thing, but you'd harness
>> those poor peoples back to the Soviet empire to start the Cold War
>> all over again. I don't accept that. Russia is Russia. The other
>> countries are free and sovereign. Whatever that requires.
>>
> Splendid Bill. Stop them if you can. So far, the Russians are doing
> exactly what they want to do, and all Bush can do is whine about it.
>
I think you are confused, scolding a petulant child isn't itself
"whining".
> There is no ceasefire. Just a continuous Russian advance and
> consolidation.
>
I don't yet know.
> They could do exactly the same thing in the Ukraine,
> backed up by half the population that's Russian. Watch them.
>
I don't get those numbers from the CIA Factbook:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/up.html#People
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Ethnic groups:
Ukrainian 77.8%%, Russian 17.3%%, Belarusian 0.6%%, Moldovan 0.5%%,
Crimean Tatar 0.5%%, Bulgarian 0.4%%, Hungarian 0.3%%, Romanian 0.3%%,
Polish 0.3%%, Jewish 0.2%%, other 1.8%% (2001 census)
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Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out,
They leave the West behind,
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout,
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind.