> Poland was correct to agree to placement of the missile defence system
> in direct response to the Russian occupation of Georgia. Russia is in
> a position to reestablish the Soviet Union. Several of the former
> Soviet republics have never really left Russia -- e.g.,Kazakhstan,
> Byelorussia -- Russia maintains military forces there and controls the
> governments. All of the others have very large Russian populations,
> including the Baltic Republics, which are now members of NATO. They
> will all go back to Russia. All of them.
>
> But, Poland was not a part of the Soviet Union. The Russians want
> them, but, they are a reasonably large, and fiercely independant
> nation, without a sizable Russian population. Given support from
> NATO, they can hold off the Russians. Historically, Poland has been
> defeated when Germany and Russia split the country up, between them.
> If the Germans back up Poland, the Russians will not touch her.
>
> The decision by Poland to side unequivocally with NATO in setting up
> the missile defence system shows Russia that they will have to risk a
> world war. The Russians will not do this over Poland. ...

> Poland was correct to agree to placement of the missile defence system
> in direct response to the Russian occupation of Georgia.  Russia is in
> a position to reestablish the Soviet Union.  Several of the former
> Soviet republics have never really left Russia -- e.g.,Kazakhstan,
> Byelorussia -- Russia maintains military forces there and controls the
> governments.  All of the others have very large Russian populations,
> including the Baltic Republics, which are now members of NATO.  They
> will all go back to Russia.  All of them.
>
> But, Poland was not a part of the Soviet Union.  The Russians want
> them, but, they are a reasonably large, and fiercely independant
> nation, without a sizable Russian population.  Given support from
> NATO, they can hold off the Russians.  Historically, Poland has been
> defeated when Germany and Russia split the country up, between them.
> If the Germans back up Poland, the Russians will not touch her.
>
> The decision by Poland to side unequivocally with NATO in setting up
> the missile defence system shows Russia that they will have to risk a
> world war.  The Russians will not do this over Poland. ...

> Jerry Kraus wrote:

>> Poland was correct to agree to placement of the missile defence system
>> in direct response to the Russian occupation of Georgia.  Russia is in
>> a position to reestablish the Soviet Union.  Several of the former
>> Soviet republics have never really left Russia -- e.g.,Kazakhstan,
>> Byelorussia -- Russia maintains military forces there and controls the
>> governments.  All of the others have very large Russian populations,
>> including the Baltic Republics, which are now members of NATO.  They
>> will all go back to Russia.  All of them.

>

>> But, Poland was not a part of the Soviet Union.  The Russians want
>> them, but, they are a reasonably large, and fiercely independant
>> nation, without a sizable Russian population.  Given support from
>> NATO, they can hold off the Russians.  Historically, Poland has been
>> defeated when Germany and Russia split the country up, between them.
>> If the Germans back up Poland, the Russians will not touch her.

>

>> The decision by Poland to side unequivocally with NATO in setting up
>> the missile defence system shows Russia that they will have to risk a ...

> On Aug 15, 3:49 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>

>> Poland was correct to agree to placement of the missile defence system
>> in direct response to the Russian occupation of Georgia.  Russia is in
>> a position to reestablish the Soviet Union.  Several of the former
>> Soviet republics have never really left Russia -- e.g.,Kazakhstan,
>> Byelorussia -- Russia maintains military forces there and controls the
>> governments.  All of the others have very large Russian populations,
>> including the Baltic Republics, which are now members of NATO.  They
>> will all go back to Russia.  All of them.

>

>> But, Poland was not a part of the Soviet Union.  The Russians want
>> them, but, they are a reasonably large, and fiercely independant
>> nation, without a sizable Russian population.  Given support from
>> NATO, they can hold off the Russians.  Historically, Poland has been ...

> I stated exactly what will happen. All former Soviet Republics --
> including the Baltics and the Ukraine -- will be reunited with
> Russia. They should never have been seperated. They are all
> Russians...

> In article
> <25119625-16bd-47dc-bb71-c91f1768a...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:

>> I stated exactly what will happen.  All former Soviet Republics --
>> including the Baltics and the Ukraine -- will be reunited with
>> Russia.  They should never have been seperated.  They are all
>> Russians, or largely Russians.  The Russians will not regain control
>> over most of the former satellites however, at least not in the short
>> term.

>
> That's right. The only thing Russia wants is to have safe borders. That
> is exactly what the US will never guarantee, because they want Russia.
> The US almost had Russia in its pocket after Yeltsin squandered the
> Russian oil and gave it away. The West (US and Britain) are mad at
> Russia because Putin tackled the oligarchs and gave the Russian people
> its resources back. The missiles in Poland are aimed at Russia. No
> other state would allow such a thing, certainly not the US. So again
> it's a matter of imposing the will of the most arrogant, in this case ...

>>> I stated exactly what will happen.  All former Soviet Republics --
>>> including the Baltics and the Ukraine -- will be reunited with
>>> Russia.  They should never have been seperated.  They are all
>>> Russians, or largely Russians.  The Russians will not regain control
>>> over most of the former satellites however, at least not in the short
>>> term.

>

>> That's right. The only thing Russia wants is to have safe borders. That
>> is exactly what the US will never guarantee, because they want Russia.
>> The US almost had Russia in its pocket after Yeltsin squandered the
>> Russian oil and gave it away. The West (US and Britain) are mad at
>> Russia because Putin tackled the oligarchs and gave the Russian people
>> its resources back. The missiles in Poland are aimed at Russia. No
>> other state would allow such a thing, certainly not the US. So again
>> it's a matter of imposing the will of the most arrogant, in this case
>> the US. The US and Britain consider they have a moral right to the
>> riches of other nations. It's literally written in Brzezinski's book
>> about the American primacy and its geostrategic imperatives. In one
>> word, it's the denial of the sovereignty and right to resources of all
>> other nations. ...

>>>> I stated exactly what will happen.  All former Soviet Republics --
>>>> including the Baltics and the Ukraine -- will be reunited with
>>>> Russia.  They should never have been seperated...

>And bombing Vietnam, Iraq, Aghanistan, etc. etc. That's more than
>imposing your will,

>it's having people make their last will.
>It's an industry. You destroy, the taxpayer pays, you 'rebuild' (read
>'rob the resources') with money of the conquered nation.
>Of course, always mention you do it for humanitarian reasons.