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Philosophical Op-Ed: Most Europeans Are World Weary About Obama         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Jul 26, 2008 16:52

Is my subject title accurate: What would be a better subject title?

Her essay includes discussion of Kantians versus Hobbesians, while I
comprehend maybe half what she says.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/opinion/26neiman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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Re: Philosophical Op-Ed: Most Europeans Are World Weary About Obama         


Author: Peace in the Middle East!
Date: Jul 26, 2008 22:43

"Robert Cohen" msn.com> wrote in message
news:3798aa18-140a-48a4-bd86-5f8039a21e68@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Is my subject title accurate: What would be a better subject title?
>
> Her essay includes discussion of Kantians versus Hobbesians, while I
> comprehend maybe half what she says.
>

I read it yesterday, and thought it was clear what she meant - eg "He was
using the past to remind us all that we need not resign ourselves to the way
things are now."

and

"Mr. Obama's speech gave Europeans a chance to hear the difference between
optimism and idealism. Optimists refuse to acknowledge reality. eg[
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld]

Idealists remind us that it isn't fixed." [ Kennedy/Ghandi/Obama ]
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Re: Philosophical Op-Ed: Most Europeans Are World Weary About Obama         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Jul 26, 2008 23:58

On Jul 26, 4:52 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
> Is my subject title accurate: What would be a better subject title?
>
> Her essay includes discussion of Kantians versus Hobbesians, while I
> comprehend maybe half what she says.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/opinion/26neiman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=...

Interesting, I want to dig around tomorrow for something on this...

...Not every European shows scorn for Mr. Obama. Karsten Voigt, the
astute coordinator of the German Foreign Ministry’s America policies,
thinks the United States is attempting a “complete renewal of its own
political culture.”
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Re: Philosophical Op-Ed:         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Jul 27, 2008 05:22

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:52:30 -0700, Robert Cohen wrote:
> Is my subject title accurate: What would be a better subject title?
>
> Her essay includes discussion of Kantians versus Hobbesians, while I
> comprehend maybe half what she says.
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/opinion/26neiman.html?
_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
> Most Europeans Are World Weary About Obama...

I doubt this. Rather "Most Europeans Are Weary About The Federal
Government of the United States"
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