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Author: zinniczinnic Date: Mar 5, 2008 09:58
Overheard on a train of thought.
I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
Zinnic
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Mar 5, 2008 10:03
On Mar 5, 9:58 am, zinnic gate.net> wrote:> Overheard on a train of thought.
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> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
> Zinnic
Because it is possible that the concept/awareness of phenomenal
consciousnes, is itself just a sequence of changing configurations,
making the real you equal to a zombie and sufficient for such
experiences?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IoXgRtDysLY
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Author: EdEd Date: Mar 5, 2008 17:20
On Mar 5, 1:03 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:> On Mar 5, 9:58 am, zinnic gate.net> wrote:
>>> Overheard on a train of thought.
>
>> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
>> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
>> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
>> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
>> Zinnic
>
> Because it is possible that the concept/awareness of phenomenal
> consciousnes, is itself just a sequence of changing configurations,
> making the real you equal to a zombie and sufficient for such
> experiences?
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IoXgRtDysLY
>
> A man is standing next to a tree in the swamp when quite suddenly the ...
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Author: zinniczinnic Date: Mar 6, 2008 05:19
On Mar 5, 7:20 pm, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:> On Mar 5, 1:03 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Mar 5, 9:58 am, zinnic gate.net> wrote:>
>>> Overheard on a train of thought.
>
>>> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
>>> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
>>> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
>>> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
>>> Zinnic
>
>> Because it is possible that the concept/awareness of phenomenal
>> consciousnes, is itself just a sequence of changing configurations,
>> making the real you equal to a zombie and sufficient for such
>> experiences? ...
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Author: zinniczinnic Date: Mar 6, 2008 10:04
On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:> On Mar 5, 9:58 am,zinnic gate.net> wrote:
>>> Overheard on a train of thought.
>
>> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
>> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
>> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
>> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
>>Zinnic
>
> Because it is possible that the concept/awareness of phenomenal
> consciousnes, is itself just a sequence of changing configurations,
> making the real you equal to a zombie and sufficient for such
> experiences?
>
If the real 'me' is equal to a zombie, what does that make
Philosophy's zombie? Human? If so, a zombie different to humankind
does not, and cannot, exist. ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Mar 6, 2008 23:43
On Mar 5, 5:20 pm, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:> On Mar 5, 1:03 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Mar 5, 9:58 am, zinnic gate.net> wrote:>
>>> Overheard on a train of thought.
>
>>> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
>>> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
>>> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
>>> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
>>> Zinnic
>
>> Because it is possible that the concept/awareness of phenomenal
>> consciousnes, is itself just a sequence of changing configurations,
>> making the real you equal to a zombie and sufficient for such
>> experiences? ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Mar 6, 2008 23:45
On Mar 6, 10:04 am, zinnic gate.net> wrote:> On Mar 5, 12:03 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Mar 5, 9:58 am,zinnic gate.net> wrote:>
>>> Overheard on a train of thought.
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>>> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
>>> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
>>> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
>>> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
>>>Zinnic
>
>> Because it is possible that the concept/awareness of phenomenal
>> consciousnes, is itself just a sequence of changing configurations,
>> making the real you equal to a zombie and sufficient for such
>> experiences? ...
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: Mar 7, 2008 01:05
> Overheard on a train of thought.
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> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
> Zinnic
You do it all the time ;-)
BOfL
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Author: zinniczinnic Date: Mar 7, 2008 08:10
On Mar 7, 3:05 am, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:>> Overheard on a train of thought.
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>> I am a philosophical Zombie because I do not possess, and have never
>> possessed, phenomenal consciousness.
>
>> Question-How could a Zombie make that statement in the absence of a
>> public truth condition for the occurence of phenomenal consciousnes?
>>Zinnic
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> You do it all the time ;-)
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> BOfL
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Date: Mar 7, 2008 08:56
"zinnic" wrote:
> I have no need for a public truth condition because I have
> first person experience of phenomenal consciousness.
And no doubt you consider that you have first person experience of
your first person experience of phenomenal consciousness, and first
person experience of your first person experience of your first person
experience of phenomenal consciousness etc., but which of these
"first persons" is the "real" first person? An infinite regress is usually
an indication that something is wrong with the line of thought being
pursued, and that a new angle of attack is needed.
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