On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:31:31 -0500, Day Brown
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wrote:
>Polite discourse appreciated; so much agreement is over the top. But if
>we now consider what will be done, rather than what should be done, the
>racist elements will prolly push political correctness aside unless the
>economy significantly improves.
Doubtful in my mind.
I am of the politically incorrect ideal that humans should limit their
numbers, by choice.
In nature, when animals outstrip the supply of resources, they
become sick with malnutrition and disease always follows until
the numbers are vastly decreased, most dying horrible deaths.
I see no way, at this time, that humans will avoid that very fate. We,
each of us, are a product of vast amounts of oil reserves since the
early 1900's, and when that tap runs out or slows significantly, so do
we. In 1900, there were about 1.2 billion or so humans on this planet.
Now there are 6.7 billion, rising to 9 to 10 billion, by mid-century.
Its only a matter of time before things get real ugly for many of
us who are unlucky enough to live that long, IMHO.
>Everyone thinks decline is as inevitable as that of Rome, but misses the
>other model of Byzantium. Who shed unprofitable provinces to barbarism
>and anarchy and redirected critical resources to the great power
>centers. We already see failed states and see 2nd tier economies teeter
>on the brink, Mexico among them.
Indeed so. I have noticed for many years that most Americans do not
understand that we either learn from history or we perish from lack of
foresight.
>The greed and corruption of Wall Street and friends in the Bush
>administration has taken a trillion or more out of the pockets of the
>middle class. This led to the bankruptcy and foreclosures we now see,
>but already discernable is the decline in consumer spending. All those
>factories in Mexico will be shut down cause the American middle class no
>longer makes enuf money to buy the output.
Once again I could not agree more.
Worse the Mexican farmers who grew corn and maize have been
outstripped by the vast, oil-driven American farmers, sending even
more unwanted intruders northward to extract a living in America.
Lots of counties and states bend over backwards to "help" these
people while the taxpaying citizens who fall on hard times, in a great
part by these low-wage job stealers, are told to "get lost", in more
or less those words, many times by Mexican-American state workers
who got the job just for being "Hispanic" in origin.
Total incompetence rules the day in this state, to say the least
That's how it is in California, where many Mexican hate groups like
"La Raza" ("The Race") have sworn they will take back what they think
is theirs, hence my quest to remove myself from this awful quagmire.
Its only a matter of time; perhaps a year or two, then I am gone.
>Meanwhile, we can expect a myriad of small businesses to emerge to
>repair the cars, appliances, multimedia, etc that people already have.
>As a result, Mexicans wont have the money to buy their own oil.
That sounds fine to me. Either we decide we are going to have borders
enforced, like they do in southern Mexico, where they shoot border
jumpers all the time, or we may as well hand them the keys to the US.
>Then, we get to see whether they have the border closed well enuf. If
>not, then we can expect to see state militias take over control of their
>own borders.
That might happen inn TX or AZ, but California is a lost cause as far
as doing anything that would actually work to keep Mexican illegals
out of this state.
The warehouses and housing projects (well, when the housing market
*was* high) are chock full of illegals from south of the border doing
most all the work, but electrical work , since that is highly
unionized here, unlike most professions.
>Last spring, Arkansas finished the year with a $919,000,000 SURPLUS. The
>gov said he'd use some of the money to re-equip the Arkansas National
>Guard (who'd left gear in Iraq), and that equipment would not leave the
>state without his consent.
Good ! The Nat. Guard is supposed to be home, not fighting an illegal
oil war in Iraq.
>For one- its not going back to Iraq. Which is
>very popular, and for two, it will be here to effectively deal with the
>next batch of tornados- which made voters angry when they realized the
>National guard was unable to function because of what was left in Iraq.
Once again, that's a good move on the part of your governor.
Ours is quite unpopular right now with the prison-guard unions and
they are are trying to have him removed from office as he wants to
cut their VERY high wages and overtime hours back to save the state
budget,which is out of control.
I don't much like Arnold Swartzenneger as the "GOV", but I support him
on this matter 100 %%.
>And for three, the gov has smacked down on illegals and companies that
>hire them and if push comes to shove, everyone knows he has his own
>private army to back him up. Who are mostly battle hardened veterans of
>the Gulf wars.
Cripes, I would love to see that happen here but the huge
agribusinesses and other huge industries have this state locked up
tight as far as hiring illegals goes.
I'd love to see these business people in shackles and chains going to
prison, as it is illegal to hire illegal aliens under state law.
>Maybe this has something to do with it, but there are a lot of white
>people moving into my neck of Ozark woods, and the economies of the
>towns here and on the Ozark rim are booming. There is no racism here
>cause there are no other races. Well, I do have a friend who is half
>Japanese, but everyone loves his ass cause he keeps their cars running.
>His kids did real well in college also.
I wish we had more Japanese out here, not that we don't have lots of
Asians in CA. Sounds like AR is the place to be, particularly since it
has a mild climate, excepting the tornadoes of course.
I can deal with that as long as the humidity is not as high as it is
in lots of the South, where 90 percent plus humidity in summertime
is a normal condition.
That's one climatic condition I cannot tolerate for long, being from a
hot, but dry/arid climate like California is, in the summertime.
