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Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Oct 31, 2007 15:04

Wikipedia has worn out its welcome

By JAMES DERK
Scripps Howard News Service
2007-10-30 00:00:00

One of the most interesting things to arise out of the Internet age is
Wikipedia, a self-edited reference manual for the masses that allows
anyone, anywhere, to add content, enrich the effort and generally leave
the Web better than they found it.

Well, if only that were true.

I was one of the original fans of Wikipedia, writing enthusiastically
about it and even submitting some material and photographs. Today I
won't go near it. What's changed?

The lure of the site, that anyone, anywhere can contribute to the
discourse, is long gone. Wikipedia is now managed by a group of
fanatical editors that nit-pick everything from a person's "worthiness"
to be listed to arcane, subtle additions. There are numerous discussion
boards on the site where the 1,000 unpaid editors debate endlessly
instead of making substantial improvements to the site.
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Oct 31, 2007 15:30

On Oct 31, 3:04 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> Wikipedia has worn out its welcome
>
> By JAMES DERK
> Scripps Howard News Service
> 2007-10-30 00:00:00
>
> One of the most interesting things to arise out of the Internet age is
> Wikipedia, a self-edited reference manual for the masses that allows
> anyone, anywhere, to add content, enrich the effort and generally leave
> the Web better than they found it.
>
> Well, if only that were true.
>
> I was one of the original fans of Wikipedia, writing enthusiastically
> about it and even submitting some material and photographs. Today I
> won't go near it. What's changed?
>
> The lure of the site, that anyone, anywhere can contribute to the
> discourse, is long gone. Wikipedia is now managed by a group of ...
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: tooly
Date: Oct 31, 2007 17:19

>> The lure of the site, that anyone, anywhere can contribute to the
> discourse, is long gone. Wikipedia is now managed by a group of
> fanatical editors that nit-pick everything from a person's "worthiness"
> to be listed to arcane, subtle additions. There are numerous discussion
> boards on the site where the 1,000 unpaid editors debate endlessly
> instead of making substantial improvements to the site.
>
>
Yea...but wouldn't any encyclopedic resource be overseen by editors who come
to the table with their own biases and political leans? Anything published
with the name HARVARD on it these days comes highly suspect as product of
extreme secular liberalism. BERKLEY even worse. OXFORD not far behind.
I doubt if there is a resource left without political taint to it now.
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: knucmo
Date: Oct 31, 2007 17:48

On 31 Oct, 23:04, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> Where should you find reliable information? I would start with good old
> Google. On nearly any topic under the sun you can down your own research
> courtesy of the world's most effective search engine. There you can find
> peer-reviewed or at least professionally edited publications for the
> information you seek. Google's search patterns (rewarding sites for
> being linked to) helps push reputable information to the top.

It also pushes Wikipedia to the top....But I guess that is based more
on hits than anything.
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: turtoni
Date: Oct 31, 2007 21:44

On Oct 31, 8:48 pm, knucmo hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 Oct, 23:04, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>
>> Where should you find reliable information? I would start with good old
>> Google. On nearly any topic under the sun you can down your own research
>> courtesy of the world's most effective search engine. There you can find
>> peer-reviewed or at least professionally edited publications for the
>> information you seek. Google's search patterns (rewarding sites for
>> being linked to) helps push reputable information to the top.
>
> It also pushes Wikipedia to the top....But I guess that is based more
> on hits than anything.

i'm sure we can all chop out some fruitful wiki to support our own
pedia's.

if you're unhappy with the harvesting then lets imagine we can do our
own gardening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laziness
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: Awlnoing
Date: Nov 1, 2007 05:17

It is always sad when lawyers get involved. We need to move the Internet to
a non litigious country.

The progression of software idiot proofing has made the leap from spell
check to grammar check. Now we need to advance to instant electronic fact
check...

"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:lsuhi3pdstahsnkqc4uat61a6t9t1ir9nh@4ax.com...
> Wikipedia has worn out its welcome
>
> By JAMES DERK
> Scripps Howard News Service
> 2007...
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Nov 1, 2007 09:14

On Nov 1, 8:17 am, "Awlnoing" hotmail.com> wrote:
> It is always sad when lawyers get involved. We need to move the Internet to
> a non litigious country.
>
> The progression of software idiot proofing has made the leap from spell
> check to grammar check. Now we need to advance to instant electronic fact
> check...
>
> "Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>
> news:lsuhi3pdstahsnkqc4uat61a6t9t1ir9nh@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>> Wikipedia has worn out its welcome
>
>> By JAMES DERK
>> Scripps Howard News Service
>> 2007-10-30 00:00:00
> ...
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: Daniel T.
Date: Nov 1, 2007 13:12

Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
> Wikipedia has worn out its welcome
>
> By JAMES DERK

His critique is self-contradictory. On the one hand he complains because
it is no longer the case that "anyone, anywhere can contribute to the
discourse" while on the other hand he complains that schools ban the use
of wikipedia because "the information can be supplied by anyone." So I
have to ask, (a) can anyone contribute? and (b) is the answer to (a) a
good thing or a bad thing? The author can't seem to decide.
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Nov 1, 2007 14:43

On Nov 2, 5:12 am, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
> His critique is self-contradictory. On the one hand he complains because
> it is no longer the case that "anyone, anywhere can contribute to the
> discourse" while on the other hand he complains that schools ban the use
> of wikipedia because "the information can be supplied by anyone." So I
> have to ask, (a) can anyone contribute? and (b) is the answer to (a) a
> good thing or a bad thing? The author can't seem to decide.

You're right on that one Daniel and it supports my own longstanding
disdain of the wiki trash, as being somewhere where contradicting
crackpots, like that twit, can and do contribute and then even more
bizarre, there are the idiots on here who regard wiki as being a
reference for anything but the mindless nonsenses of idiotic trashy
writers.

MG
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Re: On Wikipedia         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Nov 1, 2007 17:44

On Nov 1, 5:43 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Nov 2, 5:12 am, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> His critique is self-contradictory. On the one hand he complains because
>> it is no longer the case that "anyone, anywhere can contribute to the
>> discourse" while on the other hand he complains that schools ban the use
>> of wikipedia because "the information can be supplied by anyone." So I
>> have to ask, (a) can anyone contribute? and (b) is the answer to (a) a
>> good thing or a bad thing? The author can't seem to decide.
>
> You're right on that one Daniel and it supports my own longstanding
> disdain of the wiki trash, as being somewhere where contradicting
> crackpots, like that twit, can and do contribute and then even more
> bizarre, there...
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