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Author: toolytooly Date: Jul 12, 2008 17:31
Seems there is a social trend going on where 'Z' is supplanting 's' in many
colloquial writings. Therefore, "grins" becomes "grinz" as shown in a
recent thread.
I relate this 'Z' phenomenon to the 'rap' scene, where 'anti-authority' is
symbolized in everything from dress code, to song lyrics, and all sorts of
body language. Wearing of ballcaps backwards, for example, is just one
widely used expression that symbolizes anti-establishment, anti-authority.
There are mating points to be gained through such expressions, whereby youth
identifies itself as standing against the 'father's world' as it were, I
suppose as youth tries to establish it's own identity.
Unfortunately, much of today's youth has embraced black cultural influences
and there is a racial overtone to much of these expressions, that otherwise
might be normal and healthy. Some rebellion is perhaps normal, as youth
must reject a certain degree of their father's world that they can find some
originality to their own existence [this might be articulated better by the
librarians on this NG].
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 12, 2008 19:29
On Jul 13, 10:31 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:> Seems there is a social trend going on where 'Z' is supplanting 's' in many
> colloquial writings. Therefore, "grins" becomes "grinz" as shown in a
> recent thread.
>
> I relate this 'Z' phenomenon to the 'rap' scene, where 'anti-authority' is
> symbolized in everything from dress code, to song lyrics, and all sorts of
> body language. Wearing of ballcaps backwards, for example, is just one
> widely used expression that symbolizes anti-establishment, anti-authority.
> There are mating points to be gained through such expressions, whereby youth
> identifies itself as standing against the 'father's world' as it were, I
> suppose as youth tries to establish it's own identity.
>
> Unfortunately, much of today's youth has embraced black cultural influences
> and there is a racial overtone to much of these expressions, that otherwise
> might be normal and healthy. Some rebellion is perhaps normal, as youth
> must reject a certain degree of their father's world that they can find some
> originality to their own existence [this might be articulated better by the
> librarians on this NG].
> ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 12, 2008 19:31
On Jul 13, 10:31 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:> Seems there is a social trend going on where 'Z' is supplanting 's' in many
> colloquial writings. Therefore, "grins" becomes "grinz" as shown in a
> recent thread.
>
> I relate this 'Z' phenomenon to the 'rap' scene, where 'anti-authority' is
> symbolized in everything from dress code, to song lyrics, and all sorts of
> body language. Wearing of ballcaps backwards, for example, is just one
> widely used expression that symbolizes anti-establishment, anti-authority.
> There are mating points to be gained through such expressions, whereby youth
> identifies itself as standing against the 'father's world' as it were, I
> suppose as youth tries to establish it's own identity.
>
> Unfortunately, much of today's youth has embraced black cultural influences
> and there is a racial overtone to much of these expressions, that otherwise
> might be normal and healthy. Some rebellion is perhaps normal, as youth
> must reject a certain degree of their father's world that they can find some
> originality to their own existence [this might be articulated better by the
> librarians on this NG].
> ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Jul 12, 2008 22:21
On Jul 12, 5:31 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:> Seems there is a social trend going on where 'Z' is supplanting 's' in many
> colloquial writings. Therefore, "grins" becomes "grinz" as shown in a
> recent thread.
>
> I relate this 'Z' phenomenon to the 'rap' scene, where 'anti-authority' is
> symbolized in everything from dress code, to song lyrics, and all sorts of
> body language. Wearing of ballcaps backwards, for example, is just one
> widely used expression that symbolizes anti-establishment, anti-authority.
> There are mating points to be gained through such expressions, whereby youth
> identifies itself as standing against the 'father's world' as it were, I
> suppose as youth tries to establish it's own identity.
>
> Unfortunately, much of today's youth has embraced black cultural influences
> and there is a racial overtone to much of these expressions, that otherwise
> might be normal and healthy. Some rebellion is perhaps normal, as youth
> must reject a certain degree of their father's world that they can find some
> originality to their own existence [this might be articulated better by the
> librarians on this NG].
> ...
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Author: Leon HoeneveldLeon Hoeneveld Date: Jul 13, 2008 00:01
tooly schreef:
> thoughts, comments?
> [all from the letter 'Z' no less, hehe]
Everybody needs a public. What perhaps started as a joke, inside Windows
Messenger, gets part of a culture, a way to reach the audience.
You choose your own audience. The public want something different, or
else it doesn't even bother to look. A part of the audience refuses to
look in a certain direction, or only when it can criticize. At least
someone got attention.
Greetz, Léon
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jul 13, 2008 04:33
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:31:38 -0400, tooly wrote:
> Unfortunately, much of today's youth has embraced black cultural
See: pre-your-life History.
Blues, jazz, beatniks, hippies..... on and on.
> such that wearing ballcaps on backwards ....
See comic strips 40 years ago.
Yo, yo?.... see hillbilly speak.
l8Rz.
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Author: toolytooly Date: Jul 13, 2008 19:53
> Seems there is a social trend going on where 'Z' is supplanting 's' in
> many colloquial writings. Therefore, "grins" becomes "grinz" as shown in
> a recent thread.
>
> I relate this 'Z' phenomenon to the 'rap' scene, where 'anti-authority' is
> symbolized in everything from dress code, to song lyrics, and all sorts of
> body language. Wearing of ballcaps backwards, for example, is just one
> widely used expression that symbolizes anti-establishment, anti-authority.
> There are mating points to be gained through such expressions, whereby
> youth identifies itself as standing against the 'father's world' as it
> were, I suppose as youth tries to establish it's own identity.
>
> Unfortunately, much of today's youth has embraced black cultural
> influences and there is a racial overtone to much of these expressions,
> that otherwise might be normal and healthy. Some rebellion is perhaps
> normal, as youth must reject a certain degree of their father's world that
> they can find some originality to their own existence [this might be
> articulated better by the librarians on this NG]. ...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jul 13, 2008 22:01
On Jul 12, 8:31 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:> Seems there is a social trend going on where 'Z' is supplanting 's' in many
> colloquial writings. Therefore, "grins" becomes "grinz" as shown in a
> recent thread.
>
> I relate this 'Z' phenomenon to the 'rap' scene, where 'anti-authority' is
> symbolized in everything from dress code, to song lyrics, and all sorts of
> body language. Wearing of ballcaps backwards, for example, is just one
> widely used expression that symbolizes anti-establishment, anti-authority.
> There are mating points to be gained through such expressions, whereby youth
> identifies itself as standing against the 'father's world' as it were, I
> suppose as youth tries to establish it's own identity.
>
> Unfortunately, much of today's youth has embraced black cultural influences
> and there is a racial overtone to much of these expressions, that otherwise
> might be normal and healthy. Some rebellion is perhaps normal, as youth
> must reject a certain degree of their father's world that they can find some
> originality to their own existence [this might be articulated better by the
> librarians on this NG].
> ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 13, 2008 23:43
On Jul 14, 12:53 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:>> Seems there is a social trend going on where 'Z' is supplanting 's' in
>> many colloquial writings. Therefore, "grins" becomes "grinz" as shown in
>> a recent thread.
>
>> I relate this 'Z' phenomenon to the 'rap' scene, where 'anti-authority' is
>> symbolized in everything from dress code, to song lyrics, and all sorts of
>> body language. Wearing of ballcaps backwards, for example, is just one
>> widely used expression that symbolizes anti-establishment, anti-authority.
>> There are mating points to be gained through such expressions, whereby
>> youth identifies itself as standing against the 'father's world' as it
>> were, I suppose as youth tries to establish it's own identity. ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 13, 2008 23:55
On Jul 14, 3:01 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:> On Jul 12, 8:31 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
SNIP
You should stay sober more often.
BOfL
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