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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: tooly
Date: Aug 18, 2008 13:56

"tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Pkkqk.11939$XT1.3850@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
> news:49uia4h4r9n4bluq6fq7no98hogpik7mib@4ax.com...
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080818/sc_livescience/scientistssaywecanseesound...
>> Scientists Say We Can See Sound
>> by Robin Nixon
>> Special to LiveScience
>> LiveScience.com
>>
>> Turning conventional neuroscience on its head, new research suggests the
>> human
>> visual system processes sound and helps us see.
>>
>> Here's the basics of what was Neuroscience 101: The auditory system
>> records
>> sound, while the visual system focuses, well, on the visuals, and never
>> do they
>> meet. Instead, a "higher cognitive" producer, like the brain's superior
>> colliculus, uses these separate inputs to create our cinematic
>> experiences.
>>
>> The textbook rewrite: The brain can, if it must, directly use sound to
>> see and
>> light to hear.
>>
>> The study was published last week in the journal BMC Neuroscience.
>>
>> Monkey hear, monkey see
>>
>> Researchers trained monkeys to locate a light flashed on a screen. When
>> the
>> light was very bright, they easily found it; when it was dim, it took a
>> long
>> time. But if a dim light made a brief sound, the monkeys found it in no
>> time -
>> too quickly, in fact, than can be explained by the old theories.
>>
>> Recordings from 49 neurons responsible for the earliest stages of visual
>> processing, researchers found activation that mirrored the behavior. That
>> is,
>> when the sound was played, the neurons reacted as if there had been a
>> stronger
>> light, at a speed that can only be explained by a direct connection
>> between the
>> ear and eye brain regions, said researcher Ye Wang of the University of
>> Texas in
>> Houston.
>>
>> The study presents the first evidence that a sensory cell can process an
>> alternative sensation, said head researcher Pascal Barone of the
>> Universite Paul
>> Sabatier in Toulouse, France, who discovered a contender for the
>> anatomical
>> connection in 2002.
>>
>> Emergency broadcast
>>
>> The discovery likely explains the tremendously quick reactions of most
>> animals,
>> including humans, to stimuli that cue multiple senses, such as a rustling
>> tiger
>> or a honking bus.
>>
>> Especially in the corners of the visual field, where eyesight is poor,
>> the ears
>> take up the slack and stimulate the visual system, Barone said.
>>
>> An extra benefit, Wang explained, is the early visual system's spatial
>> precision, something higher brain regions fudge in favor of prioritizing
>> our
>> central gaze. By sending sound inputs directly to our image processor,
>> the
>> auditory system can avoid playing telephone with time-sensitive
>> information.
>>
>> Extra-sensory power
>>
>> The discovery is likely unrelated to the rare experience of synesthesia,
>> a
>> bizarre condition experienced by a few people who can feel, here and
>> taste
>> colors. In synesthesia, for example, more complicated sensations combine
>> at
>> later stages of brain processing, so that just the mention of a color, a
>> letter
>> or a shape can automatically trigger the perception of a certain note.
>>
>> What most excites Barone about the new findings is the potential for
>> "cortical
>> plasticity" in sensory areas.
>>
>> For example, the blind, by definition, do not use the visual system to
>> see. But
>> they can, this research suggests, use it to hear. This may explain how
>> blind
>> people develop such advanced hearing skills and, similarly, why the deaf
>> often
>> possess superior sight, said Barone.
>>
>> The primary visual system is also directly activated by touch - perhaps
>> helping
>> us slap that mosquito before it stings.
>> --
>> Frederick Martin McNeill
>> Poway, California, United States of America
>> mmcneill@fuzzysys.com
>> ******************************************
>> "I never cease being dumbfounded by the unbelievable things people
>> believe."
>> - Leo Rosten
>> ******************************************
>
> Idiot. You play with this stuff like it doesn't matter. Life itself IS
> an illusion. It is just another story we attach to the 'cinematic
> projections' we play back from memory. Why would you want to unravel
> existence to this degree? Do you hate this BEing so much that you would
> destroy it for everyone?
> The Pain is real. The FEAR is concrete. At the moment of death, you will
> understand [we will]...but what use is that...just to KNOW?
>
> Much better to build stories, and illusions, and good experiences. Can
> you not even dream well? This could be a good world if only we could
> BELIEVE.
>
> No one can 'believe' in neurons except the Lex Luthers of life [will to
> power stuff].
>
>
>

YOu know I wouldn't use such words like 'idiot' if I didn't respect your
viewpoint so much (sic, go figure that one out, ha). You have things
pretty much right on. But I say again, that it is irresponsible nonetheless
because the idea is 'survival' and not snuffing us out because of
technicalities. With knowledge comes responsibility. I know your knee
jerk reaction is to 'spread' that knowledge and understanding, but I think
if you thought it through, you'd understand a greater responsibility in
trying to append, repair, or create new illusions (stories) that we might
survive on instead of reveling in YOUR capacity 'to understand' and simply
smiting down everyone else's.

We can make 'real' within narrow guideposts and constraints, much as if we
hold logical rules to a certain subset, we can design systems that will be
valid within that subset [but often not upheld in the universal set]. A
world is a world is a world. And you, believe it or not, are a destroyer
of worlds [unless you have a replacement for the things you'd put asunder,
which you don't]? Brain staples and cybernetic nanobot replication are
things of science fiction and not real [not even in the foreseeable future,
not in a revamping way anyway...except in the movies of course].

Your own illusion is always the last one to go...but perhaps you'd better
skip ahead to understand where you tread on all this. Note how others here
take up your terminologies...so you are potent.

But still...not responsible.
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