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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: turtoni
Date: Sep 18, 2008 20:32

On Sep 18, 11:26 pm, "THE BORG" homesweethome.com> wrote:
> Some view angels as having a "startpoint" - that they were born or birthed
> in some way.
> This is not true.
> As angels are "life" - thus there was no beginning or startpoint for them.
>
> Humans do have a beginning or startpoint - as artificial creations and not
> life - thus they know that at some stage there was a startpoint to the
> creation/illusion of Earth - animals and creatures - and humans.
>
> Humans try to understand angels and this kind of thing with their very
> limited brains and with their view point which is not the view point of
> "life".
>
> Humans should learn not to brag about what they think they "know" - as
> humans do not "know" anything at all.  It is not possible for a human to
> "know" anything as they are not life.  They "think" they know is all.  And
> many say they "know" this or that or the other - and they all have different
> opinions on what they "know" thus proving what we say is true.
>
> Once humans accept that they are artificial creations - and forget their
> notions of an eternal soul or any kind of friendship or relationship with
> any kind of superior intelligences who are "life" - they can be much happier
> this way.
>
> That in essence humans have no worries.  Upon death is cessation and
> termination of that particular human model or character - so worries of
> death or religion or reincarnation or things of this nature are futile and
> pointless.
>
> Humans should live life to the full.  Enjoy each and every moment of the
> time you have.  Believe in the one true God if you wish - and you may find
> that like the Jews you may become lucky and wealthy and suffer very little
> if this is your Faith.
>
> But do not view superior intelligences or angels or "life" that is out
> there - as being in any way like humans.  Humans are merely toys,
> playthings, artificial biological creations, and there would or never could
> be any kind of friendship or respect for humans.  The same as you may get
> attached to characters in a computer game you play, where there is an
> artificial world - there is always the backup and restore facility - and
> that one day if you wish - you may delete the game and thus the world and
> characters cease and are gone for ever.
> THE BORG

"Pecking order or just peck order is a hierarchical system of social
organization in animals. It was first described from the behaviour of
poultry by Thorleif Schjelderup-Ebbe in 1921 under the German terms
Hackordnung or Hackliste and introduced into English in 1925. The peck
order referred to the refusal of birds to feed until the more dominant
individuals had finished. The term dominance hierarchy is more often
used for this phenomenon in other animals.

It is a basic concept in social stratification and social hierarchy
that has its counterpart in other animal species as well, including
humans. Still, the term "pecking order" is often used synonymously as
well, because the "pecking order" was the first studied example of the
social hierarchy among animals.

The basic concept behind the establishment of the pecking order among,
for example, chickens, is that it is necessary to determine who is the
'top chicken,' the 'bottom chicken' and where all the rest fit in
between. Consequently, this also determines which chicken gets to eat
first or which chicken gets to peck on any other chickens they want.
The top chicken is one which can peck any chicken it wants. The bottom
chicken is one that lets all the other chickens peck on it and stands
up to none. There are chickens in the middle, who peck on certain
chickens but are, in turn, pecked on by other chickens higher up on
the scale."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecking_order
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