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Author: curmudgeon
Date: Sep 14, 2008 23:27

Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.

William Ockham 1214 - 1294
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Re: Ockhams Razor         


Author: curmudgeon
Date: Sep 15, 2008 00:15

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"curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote in message
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Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.

William Ockham 1214 - 1294

Agree.
The more the words, the less the meaning.

I wonder just what the Emanuel Kant fan club would
either think or say about it ?
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Re: Ockhams Razor         


Author: Leon Hoeneveld
Date: Sep 15, 2008 00:39

curmudgeon schreef:
> "Mark Earnest" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
> considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.
>
> William Ockham 1214 - 1294
>
>
> Agree.
> The more the words, the less the meaning.
>
>
> I wonder just what the Emanuel Kant fan club would
> either think or say about it ?
>
> ...
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Re: Ockhams Razor         


Author: tg
Date: Sep 15, 2008 03:46

On Sep 15, 3:15 am, "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote:
> "Mark Earnest" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote in message
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>  news:hf-dnSrlre_JnVPVnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@bresnan.com...
> Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
>  considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.
>
> William Ockham  1214 - 1294
>
> Agree.
> The more the words, the less the meaning.
>
> I wonder just what the Emanuel Kant fan club would
> either think or say about it ?

First they would explain that your interpretation is inadequate.
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Re: Ockhams Razor         


Author: Errol
Date: Sep 15, 2008 04:52

On Sep 15, 12:46 pm, tg earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 3:15 am, "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote:
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>> "Mark Earnest" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote in message
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>>  news:hf-dnSrlre_JnVPVnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@bresnan.com...
>> Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
>>  considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.
>
>> William Ockham  1214 - 1294
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>> Agree. ...
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Re: Ockhams Razor         


Author: Leon Hoeneveld
Date: Sep 15, 2008 05:37

Errol schreef:
> I would agree with you that evolution is a more logical explanation
> for the development of living creatures, but evolution would/could not
> work unless all the other factors were just perfect. I.E...
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Author: tg
Date: Sep 15, 2008 05:44

On Sep 15, 7:52 am, Errol gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 12:46 pm, tg earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> On Sep 15, 3:15 am, "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote:
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>>> "Mark Earnest" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>news:r6-dncI0BYNTlFPVnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@posted.internetamerica...
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>>> "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote in message
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>>>  news:hf-dnSrlre_JnVPVnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@bresnan.com...
>>> Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
>>>  considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.
>
>>> William Ockham  1214 - 1294
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>>> Agree. ...
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Author: Sean
Date: Sep 15, 2008 06:49

"curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
> considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.
>
> William Ockham 1214 - 1294
>
>

Outside of scientific theory, Occam's razor can work quite well.

I consider more than just "simple explanation", but also to be the "most
obvious or likely" senario, is more often than not, the accurate way to look
at it.

It doesn't mean it is true, or should even be believed as true, but that,
all things being equal, one is best equipped to move forward in life by
judging things at face value, the most obvious, the most simple, or the most
likely, and proceeding from there with an open mind...... meaning being
open to more clarifying info coming along.
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Author: zinnic
Date: Sep 15, 2008 07:26

On Sep 15, 8:49 am, "Sean" now.com.au> wrote:
> "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> news:hf-dnSrlre_JnVPVnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@bresnan.com...
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>> Ockham's Razor, simply put, is the belief that when all things are
>> considered, the simplest explanation is often the truest one.
>
>> William Ockham  1214 - 1294
>
> Outside of scientific theory, Occam's razor can work quite well.
>
> I consider more than just "simple explanation", but also to be the "most
> obvious or likely" senario, is more often than not, the accurate way to look
> at it.
>
> It doesn't mean it is true, or should even be believed as true, but that,
> all things being equal, one is best equipped to move forward in life by
> judging things at face value, the most obvious, the most simple, or the most
> likely, and proceeding from there with an open  mind...... meaning being ...
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Re: Ockhams Razor         


Author: Errol
Date: Sep 15, 2008 08:03

On Sep 15, 2:44 pm, tg earthlink.net> wrote:
> That's really not correct. Evolution has nothing to do with why Earth
> exists, or the nature of the constants of physics. Evolution could
> work just fine in any universe where there is life, where life
> involves imperfect reproduction in a variable environment or imperfect
> reproduction where the reproduction rate is dependent on the nature of
> the progeny.
>

Yes! evolution has nothing to do with why earth exists or the nature
of the constants of physics but, for life to exist in the first place,
all the other factors have to be within a narrow range or life (as we
know it anyway) could not exist. But this is not new. it is well known
and has been debated ad nauseum. I am simply stating it as a response
to your statement that evolution does not require the assumption of
the existence of a supernatural entity. I am saying that how the
universe came into existance COULD require the existance of a
supernatural entity; and there are competing theories. The post was
about OR not evolution.
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