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Occam's razor - revised         


Author: AKA gray asphalt
Date: Mar 7, 2007 19:31

It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human beings
while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other human
need, should be adopted."

EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?
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Re: Occam's razor - revised         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Mar 7, 2007 19:59

On Mar 7, 7:31 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com>
wrote:
> It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human beings
> while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other human
> need, should be adopted."
>

Why sould theories be limited to harmony?
> EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
> the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?

The word tradition comes from the Latin word traditio which means "to
hand down" or "to hand over." It is used in a number of ways in the
English language:

1. A meme; beliefs or customs taught by one
generation to the next, often orally. For example,
we can speak of the tradition of sending
birth announcements.

2. A set of customs or practices. For example,
we can speak of Christmas traditions.
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Re: Occam's razor - revised         


Author: tg
Date: Mar 8, 2007 04:44

On Mar 7, 10:31 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com>
wrote:
> It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human beings
> while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other human
> need, should be adopted."
>
> EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
> the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?

But God that uses evolution as a mechanism does affect various
religions. Since religious people don't accept the real Occam's Razor,
why would they accept AKA's Razor?

-tg
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Re: Occam's razor - revised         


Author: Tron
Date: Mar 8, 2007 14:15

Hi,

"AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com> skrev i melding
news:2vLHh.13592$115.12466@newsfe10.phx...
> It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human
> beings while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other
> human need, should be adopted."

This means subordinating epistemology to ethics; or: to adopt a thoroughly
pragmatic and utilitarian epistemology, an approach which is lined with
pitfalls for science, and also unneccessary as long as we are able to
consider the results of epistemology, science, research in an ethical, yet
independent framework, as we properly should.
>
> EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
> the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?
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Re: Occam's razor - revised         


Author: Joshua Aaron
Date: Mar 8, 2007 14:54

On Mar 8, 4:12 am, "Sammybaby" yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 8 Mar, 04:31, "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human beings
>> while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other human
>> need, should be adopted."
>
>> EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
>> the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?
>
> I like the direction you are going in, but I have to chime in on that
> word harmony.
> I can think of many ideas and beliefs that went against (or apparantly
> or arguably went against) harmony at that point in history, but led to
> (arguably) greater harmony later. Women having the vote, the
> abolition of slavery, privitization of _____________, in the political
> realm. Did Darwin's theory lead to more harmony?
>
> I am not saying I disagree with you, just see that word as perhaps ...
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Re: Occam's razor - revised         


Author: AKA gray asphalt
Date: Mar 9, 2007 00:40

"Sammybaby" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173348758.490249.256540@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> On 8 Mar, 04:31, "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>> It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human
>> beings
>> while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other human
>> need, should be adopted."
>>
>> EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
>> the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?
>
> I like the direction you are going in, but I have to chime in on that
> word harmony.
> I can think of many ideas and beliefs that went against (or apparantly
> or arguably went against) harmony at that point in history, but led to
> (arguably) greater harmony later. Women having the vote, the
> abolition of slavery, privitization of _____________, in the political
> realm. Did Darwin's theory lead to more harmony?
> ...
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Re: Occam's razor - revised         


Author: Sextus
Date: Mar 9, 2007 07:22

On 8 mar, 04:31, "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com>
wrote:
> It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human beings
> while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other human
> need, should be adopted."
>
> EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
> the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?

Science is about making true statements and building well-confirmed
theories. Truth and confirmation are not established through
negociation, but through theorizing and testing. At the end of the
day, they are matters of fact. Asking science to be consistent with
any foolish religious dogma people agree upon for the sake of
"harmony" is simply replacing science with something else.

Nothing is gained from the assumption that God "uses evolution as a
mechanism for creation". If natural selection alone is sufficient to
explain the evolution of species, and if natural selection, as a long
enduring process, is fully explainable by natural causes, there is
simply no need to ask for God's contribution.
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Re: Occam's razor - revised         


Author: Omniqueryous
Date: Mar 10, 2007 01:31

On Mar 7, 7:31 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" hotmail.spam.com>
wrote:
> It should read, "whatever theory creates the most harmony among human beings
> while not interfering with science, religious belief, or any other human
> need, should be adopted."
>
> EG, a god that uses evolution as a mechanism for creation does not affect
> the study of science nor evolution specifically, so why create problems?

This might raise the point of truth vs. harmony: should we adopt
nonfactual views, compromising science to be at harmony with
nonscientific views, in order to attempt to satisfy everyone? The
advancement of scientific understanding will continually arouse some
upsets merely by conflicting with pre-conceived ideas that are not
100%% in alignment with what would later be known as fact.
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