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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Feb 14, 2008 19:23
Since memorization of "geography" was my forte in the 6th grade, I
smiled though cannot be apathetic about what is apparently normative &
rather alarming public ignorance.
As that reactionary Professor Hirsch professed, not everything in
school curriculum ought to be teaching/learning "processes."
Is basic information--aka miscellaneous fact memorization--so de-
emphasized now as these two book reviews are smugly implying ?
Yes or no: Should average people be aware of ...for example, Budapest,
Hungary?
I say, "yeah," but, helle, I am not sure of anything.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/books/14dumb.html
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Feb 14, 2008 21:25
On Feb 14, 7:23 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:> Since memorization of "geography" was my forte in the 6th grade, I
> smiled though cannot be apathetic about what is apparently normative &
> rather alarming public ignorance.
>
> As that reactionary Professor Hirsch professed, not everything in
> school curriculum ought to be teaching/learning "processes."
>
> Is basic information--aka miscellaneous fact memorization--so de-
> emphasized now as these two book reviews are smugly implying ?
>
> Yes or no: Should average people be aware of ...for example, Budapest,
> Hungary?
>
> I say, "yeah," but, helle, I am not sure of anything.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/books/14dumb.html
There are many good reason for learning history and geography, the
least of which is to know what happened and where one is.
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Feb 15, 2008 01:03
On Feb 14, 10:23 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:> Since memorization of "geography" was my forte in the 6th grade, I
> smiled though cannot be apathetic about what is apparently normative &
> rather alarming public ignorance.
>
> As that reactionary Professor Hirsch professed, not everything in
> school curriculum ought to be teaching/learning "processes."
>
> Is basic information--aka miscellaneous fact memorization--so de-
> emphasized now as these two book reviews are smugly implying ?
>
> Yes or no: Should average people be aware of ...for example, Budapest,
> Hungary?
>
> I say, "yeah," but, helle, I am not sure of anything.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/books/14dumb.html
They can't do simple addition/subtraction either...
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Author: SeanSean Date: Feb 15, 2008 01:39
"kevirwin" comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Feb 14, 10:23 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:> Since memorization of "geography" was my forte in the 6th grade, I
> smiled though cannot be apathetic about what is apparently normative &
> rather alarming public ignorance.
>
> As that reactionary Professor Hirsch professed, not everything in
> school curriculum ought to be teaching/learning "processes."
>
> Is basic information--aka miscellaneous fact memorization--so de-
> emphasized now as these two book reviews are smugly implying ?
>
> Yes or no: Should average people be aware of ...for example, Budapest,
> Hungary?
>
> I say, "yeah," but, helle, I am not sure of anything.
>
> http://www.nytimes....
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Feb 15, 2008 02:31
On Feb 15, 4:39 am, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:>
> Don't forget that "necessity is the mother of invention" ... when necessity
> arrives, they'll learn how to count , or starve, trust me on that :)
You're a very "positive" person, Sean (and that's a good thing).
Optimism, hope or just a belief that we're all headed where we're
supposed to : also good....I've said before that I think I'm a little
too pragmatic for this forum; some of the issues debated here defy
common sense (no elaboration on "what" issues). I like philosophical
discussion, but not to the point of losing touch with reality... {"What
is reality???"} Hey, who said that???
Anyway, not to hijack the thread (like that doesn't happen here much),
I'm astonished (and appalled & shocked) at what has become of our
educational system in this country.
Hey, I wanna "happy ending" for this story, but I feel like I'm in the
last chapter, on the last page of the book and the bad guys are still
winnin',
K e v
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Author: TronTron Date: Feb 15, 2008 03:49
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> Don't forget that "necessity is the mother of invention" ... when
> necessity arrives, they'll learn how to count , or starve, trust me on
> that :)
Knowledge is an institution, as well. Where it isn't maintained, it will
drop below critical mass.
and people _will_ starve. Overall and in the long run, of course.
The older people get, the harder it is to learn, that's another factor.
T
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Author: SeanSean Date: Feb 15, 2008 06:33
> On Feb 15, 4:39 am, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:>>
>> Don't forget that "necessity is the mother of invention" ... when
>> necessity
>> arrives, they'll learn how to count , or starve, trust me on that :)
>
>
> You're a very "positive" person, Sean (and that's a good thing).
Thx, it helps to overcome my 'depressive' nature. It works.
> Optimism, hope or just a belief that we're all headed where we're
> supposed to : also good....I've said before that I think I'm a little
> too pragmatic for this forum; some of the issues debated here defy
> common sense (no elaboration on "what" issues). I like philosophical
> discussion, but not to the point of losing touch with reality... {"What
> is reality???"} Hey, who said that???
>
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Feb 15, 2008 07:07
On Feb 15, 4:39 am, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:> "kevirwin" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> news:b39050eb-64a5-4ed2-84fd-bde5a1c5b1be@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 14, 10:23 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
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>>> Since memorization of "geography" was my forte in the 6th grade, I
>> smiled though cannot be apathetic about what is apparently normative &
>> rather alarming public ignorance.
>
>> As that reactionary Professor Hirsch professed, not everything in
>> school curriculum ought to be teaching/learning "processes."
>
>> Is basic information--aka miscellaneous fact memorization--so de-
>> emphasized now as these two book reviews are smugly implying ?
> ...
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Author: TronTron Date: Feb 15, 2008 08:44
"Robert Cohen" msn.com> skrev i melding
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On Feb 15, 4:39 am, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:> "kevirwin" comcast.net> wrote in message
>....I understand, especially since I am as slow in arithmatic as anybody,
but the capitol (with an honorable "o") of rumania is sofia..., or
isn't that bulgaria?
Yuo.
Romania is Bukarest (or ... Bucuresti).
T
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Feb 15, 2008 16:20
On Feb 15, 9:33 am, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
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> Get another book to read ... simple! You worry too much my friend. It ain't
> your fault, and you don't need to 'fix' anything. Be yourself! Especially
> with your loved one's. Little things can make a world of difference. Like a
> baseball match, is remembered for a lifetime sometimes. :)
>
> PS re the youth of today and education. Just like you and me when we were at
> school, they do what they need to do to survive, and get thru the day.
> Today's just a tad more complex ..... that's all.
Sean,
I'll go to the library today...
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