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Author: John JonesJohn Jones Date: Sep 18, 2007 11:41
A curved line cannot be ascertained as curved except by reference to
what is straight. The universe is only non-euclidean because a non-
euclidean space's lines are bent. But there is always an option for
describing a straight line, no matter what the curvature of space.
Kant fell out of favour when his synthetic a priori non-euclidean
geometry was found not to be physically true. But it is physically
true. If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
to the same point I started from. It is no surprise, and I keep my
straight line. An n non-Euclidean (bent) surface is just a device for
bending all straight lines in n-1 ways.
Non-euclidean geometry cannot be understood except by reference to
what is straight, and straightness can always be represented.
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Author: S. JouannyS. Jouanny Date: Sep 18, 2007 12:14
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:41:49 -0700, John Jones aol.com>
wrote:
>A curved line cannot be ascertained as curved except by reference to
>what is straight. The universe is only non-euclidean because a non-
>euclidean space's lines are bent. But there is always an option for
>describing a straight line, no matter what the curvature of space.
>
>Kant fell out of favour when his synthetic a priori non-euclidean
>geometry was found not to be physically true. But it is physically
>true. If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
>to the same point I started from. It is no surprise, and I keep my
>straight line. An n non-Euclidean (bent) surface is just a device for
>bending all straight lines in n-1 ways.
>
>Non-euclidean geometry cannot be understood except by reference to
>what is straight, and straightness can always be represented.
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Author: Michael GordgeMichael Gordge Date: Sep 18, 2007 13:57
On Sep 19, 3:41 am, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
>
> Kant fell out of favour when his synthetic a priori non-euclidean
> geometry was found not to be physically true.
Nope, because Kant would drop change and or invent context, and or
invent his own new and give multiple meanings (two or more identities
allowing room for ambiguity) for concepts, just to suit his own
stupidity.
> But it is physically
> true. If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
> to the same point I started from.
Oh so the line is only directionally straight? One directional?
Why did you only make a reference in brackets to what is a very
important part of the context of your sad little excusing Kantian
stupidity story?
So you reckon that by changing deleting and or inventing context you
can make Kant not the fucking idiot he was? Yeah right!
MG
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Author: Michael GordgeMichael Gordge Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:42
On Sep 19, 3:41 am, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
> If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
> to the same point I started from. It is no surprise, and I keep my
> straight line.
Notice also how Kantian Jones is required to set himself a goal (to
walk in a circle) to keep his Kantian nightmare alive. "A bent
straight."
But of course Kantian Jones would not want to talk about straight
being anything but "dead straight" (no bends) if he wanted to plan a
journey to the moon via the physically shortest distance and time.
Straight means straight, "a bent straight line" borders on dishonest
desperate context dropping piffle, but is required by Jones to suit
his pre-set goal, i.e. walking in circles obviously following his
Kantian mind.
Jones changes and drops the context of straight and that is all he
does, he proves nothing more than the desperate idiot Kant was.
Michael Gordge
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Author: John JonesJohn Jones Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:50
On Sep 18, 9:57?pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 3:41 am, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Kant fell out of favour when his synthetic a priori non-euclidean
>> geometry was found not to be physically true.
>
> Nope, because Kant would drop change and or invent context, and or
> invent his own new and give multiple meanings (two or more identities
> allowing room for ambiguity) for concepts, just to suit his own
> stupidity.
>
>> But it is physically
>> true. If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
>> to the same point I started from.
>
> Oh so the line is only directionally straight? One directional?
>
> Why did you only make a reference in brackets to what is a very ...
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Author: Michael GordgeMichael Gordge Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:53
On Sep 19, 4:14 am, S. Jouanny hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:41:49 -0700, John Jones aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>A curved line cannot be ascertained as curved except by reference to
>>what is straight. The universe is only non-euclidean because a non-
>>euclidean space's lines are bent. But there is always an option for
>>describing a straight line, no matter what the curvature of space.
>
>>Kant fell out of favour when his synthetic a priori non-euclidean
>>geometry was found not to be physically true. But it is physically
>>true. If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
>>to the same point I started from. It is no surprise, and I keep my
>>straight line. An n non-Euclidean (bent) surface is just a device for
>>bending all straight lines in n-1 ways.
>
>>Non-euclidean geometry cannot be understood except by reference to
>>what is straight, and straightness can always be represented.
> ...
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Author: John JonesJohn Jones Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:54
On Sep 18, 10:42?pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 3:41 am, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
>
>> If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
>> to the same point I started from. It is no surprise, and I keep my
>> straight line.
>
> Notice also how Kantian Jones is required to set himself a goal (to
> walk in a circle) to keep his Kantian nightmare alive. "A bent
> straight."
>
> But of course Kantian Jones would not want to talk about straight
> being anything but "dead straight" (no bends) if he wanted to plan a
> journey to the moon via the physically shortest distance and time.
>
> Straight means straight, "a bent straight line" borders on dishonest
> desperate context dropping piffle, but is required by Jones to suit
> his pre-set goal, i.e. walking in circles obviously following his
> Kantian mind.
> ...
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Author: THE BORGTHE BORG Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:54
>> Oh so the line is only directionally straight? One directional?
>
> Yes. I think it's the sort of straight line people prefer.
>
Your sense of humour is WICKED Mr Jones!
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Author: tgtg Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:55
On Sep 18, 5:42 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 3:41 am, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
>
>> If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
>> to the same point I started from. It is no surprise, and I keep my
>> straight line.
>
> Notice also how Kantian Jones is required to set himself a goal (to
> walk in a circle) to keep his Kantian nightmare alive. "A bent
> straight."
>
> But of course Kantian Jones would not want to talk about straight
> being anything but "dead straight" (no bends) if he wanted to plan a
> journey to the moon via the physically shortest distance and time.
>
So you think that a journey from the North Pole to the South Pole is a
straight line?
-tg
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Author: tgtg Date: Sep 18, 2007 14:59
On Sep 18, 2:41 pm, John Jones aol.com> wrote:
> A curved line cannot be ascertained as curved except by reference to
> what is straight. The universe is only non-euclidean because a non-
> euclidean space's lines are bent. But there is always an option for
> describing a straight line, no matter what the curvature of space.
>
> Kant fell out of favour when his synthetic a priori non-euclidean
> geometry was found not to be physically true. But it is physically
> true. If I walk in a straight line on a (bent) sphere I will come back
> to the same point I started from. It is no surprise, and I keep my
> straight line. An n non-Euclidean (bent) surface is just a device for
> bending all straight lines in n-1 ways.
>
> Non-euclidean geometry cannot be understood except by reference...
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