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Non cogito ergo sum?         


Author: C3
Date: Apr 21, 2008 20:41

A common expression is "think about it" or "think it over," or on
other occasions, "don't think about it".

Why would you want someone to "think"? Do thoughts create things?

The antithesis of thoughts seems to be prayer. Some people meditate or
goes so far into meditation as to pray. If instead, they projected
thoughts, their thoughts could possibly hurt people according to their
line of thinking.

If I stopped thinking, would Rene Descartes still exist? He is the one
who said I think therefore I am. Wasn't he really thinking "I don't
think, therefore I am."? Sounds like a type of Hell. Al little
different than Dark Night of the Soul which is what Mother Teresa
claimed to experience.

C3
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Re: Non cogito ergo sum?         


Author: chazwin
Date: Apr 22, 2008 00:17

On Apr 22, 4:41 am, C3 aol.com> wrote:
> A common expression is "think about it" or "think it over," or on
> other occasions, "don't think about it".
>
> Why would you want someone to "think"? Do thoughts create things?

Yes. Edison had to think a light-bulb, phongraph before he stole the
first idea and invented the second. Newton had to think through his
idea of planetary motion before he was able to create his Principia
Mathematica.
>
> The antithesis of thoughts seems to be prayer. Some people meditate or
> goes so far into meditation as to pray. If instead, they projected
> thoughts, their thoughts could possibly hurt people according to their
> line of thinking.

Prayer is light pissing in the wind, or spitting in the ocean. Fuck
all good happens.
>
> If I stopped thinking, would Rene Descartes still exist?

If you stopped thinking? Maybe you should start sometime?
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Re: Non cogito ergo sum?         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Apr 23, 2008 07:36

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:41:11 -0700, C3 wrote:
> Do thoughts create things?

this is alt.philosophy. "things"? "Create?" "huh?"

Thoughts do not create things because thoughts do create things.

A contradiction has been created. Is it thought that has created this or
just the words used?

Is creation something from nothing, or just a different something made
from old ones?
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Re: Non cogito ergo sum?         


Author: chazwin
Date: Apr 23, 2008 09:45

On 23 Apr, 15:36, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:41:11 -0700, C3 wrote:
>> Do thoughts create things?
>
> this is alt.philosophy. "things"? "Create?" "huh?"
>
> Thoughts do not create things because thoughts do create things.
>
> A contradiction has been created. Is it thought that has created this or
> just the words used?
>
> Is creation something from nothing, or just a different something made
> from old ones?
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Re: Non cogito ergo sum?         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Apr 24, 2008 11:19

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:45:52 -0700, chazwin wrote:
> Your objections are incoherent.
> All creation is a re-alignment, or re-organization of that which exists,
> and we have not a single example where this is not so.

The incoherence might be in that I was not responding to you!!

My only 'objection' was the use of such words without setting up some
definition or taking the definitions for granted.

Questions like "Do thoughts create things?" can be answered in all kinds
of ways, even with contradiction ("Thoughts do not create things because
thoughts do create things") as an example.

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