I don’t know about other planets, but for earth, humans are the first
material intelligent beings on Earth, and came on earth not more than
ten thousand years ago.

Earth is 4-billion years old, as uranium-dating proves.

Reason 1: Humans are clever, they don't take tens of thousands of
years to develop scientifically, thus it also flaws the current
perception that humanity genes are stable for atleast past two hundred
thousand years ago.

Reason 2: a simple human intelligence can produce pottery, they should
have been well a few hundred thousand years ago. But we do not find
Pottery before ten-thousand years ago.

Reason 3: Archeology record suggests agriculture to come into scene in
just last ten thousand years, (Is human as dumb that for tens of
thousands of years they were just hunting?). Intuition says that if
there would be a first society, then it would be both hunters/farmers.
If Archeology says that agriculture started about ten-thousand years
ago, then humanity should have come about ten-thousand years ago, on
Earth.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:38:43 -0700 (PDT), Awais Nazir
gmail.com> wrote:

No sane person, whether atheist or theist, can answer this incoherent
rant, because we don't speak "raving loon".

Awais Nazir gmail.com> wrote in news:82d7999b-db4d-4495-96d8-
913fbfcdf4a6@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com to alt.atheism on 28 Apr 2008:

OTOH, which is a damn sight more likely, what if Usenet is full of fundy
and apologetic dickheads who have overestimated their own IQ by at least
100 points?

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Not authentic without this signature.

On Apr 28, 7:38 pm, Awais Nazir gmail.com> wrote:

Wrong. The native Australians were on that continent at least forty
thousand years for a start. Even North America has had human
inhabitants for at least twelve thousand years. This is shown by
carbon dating. I note below that you accept isochron and condordia-
discordia methods of dating as you mention uranium dating below.
Humans have been around for about a hundred thousand years but the
numbers were relatively small living in hunter gatherer groups as was
happening until quite recent times (and still do in a few isolated
areas). We nearly went extinct at one stage as genetic evidence shows
a bottleneck of a few thousand individuals at seventy thousand years
ago.

On 28 Apr, 08:38, Awais Nazir gmail.com> wrote:

Exactly the same science that determines the age of the earth as aged
mankind at least 100,000 years old. There were many ancestors of the
anatomically modern humans of 100,000 years and they go back at least
4 million years.
The rest of this statement reflects your lack of education.

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:38:43 -0700 (PDT), Awais Nazir
gmail.com> wrote:

What is it with you morons?

On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:38:43 -0700, Awais Nazir wrote:

On the off chance you should wake up one morning embarrassed by your
profound ignorance, pick up a copy of "Guns, Germs, and Steel", by Jared
Diamond. He provides a comprehensive look at many of the points you raise
about the dynamics of early civilizations.

Awais Nazir wrote:

That's not true.

Science is not that important when you're hunting to survive. You just
need to know how to kill your game, not the physics behind it.

Why? They had no need for pottery if they were nomads.

On Apr 28, 5:38 pm, Awais Nazir gmail.com> wrote:

There are shell beads from africa 160,000years old.
Humans have been anatomically modern for that long.

The people of outback australia or the jungles of the Amazon are
clever - but they never developed writing. Knowledge is passed on
grandfather/grandmother/ father mother to the child.
Knowledge is about survival - how to get food how to make a spear or a
knife or a fish trap.

On Apr 28, 3:38 am, Awais Nazir gmail.com> wrote:

Venus of Dolni Věstonice 34000 to 25000 BC....it took me less than 2
minutes to just randomly find an error....if something this easily
checked is found to be incorrect, why should we trust anything else
you say?

There is none, because you are wrong.

Hatter