>> I took economics from Walter Heller, and Zeitgeist, while I'm glad it is
>> out there, does not see the other hand. Everyone sees the interest, but
>> dont see the investment that results. Which creates the jobs that are,
>> in turn, taxed.
>>
>> And of course, some of that investment is in media. Zeitgeist goes on
>> about enslavement, but inasmuch as sheeple are too lazy, too stupid and
>> too neurotic to properly inform themselves, slavery is inevitable. And
>> the question is now how much money the power elite makes, but what they
>> do with it. They quite literally, cannot spend a trillion on mansions
>> and the usual collection of status symbols.
>>
>> Moreover, the power elite is subject to group think like all other
>> hominids are; so some of these investments made no real sense. Nor will
>> their efforts to fight the war on terrorism or use the patriot act to
>> discover plots do anything to improve their security, but if anything,
>> only make they, and us, all insecure.
>>
>> Some are concerned about the loss of civil rights. They never really had
>> them in the first place. My property has been searched 7 times since
>> 1968 when I was identified as someone who thot differently. I could not
>> hire a lawyer to sue for the abuse to my civil rights because none of
>> them would want to piss off the local authorities- who they needed to do
>> business with on a regular basis, and there's no way I could afford to
>> pay a lawyer from some other region.
>>
>> Zeitgeist says they can search your house now if they suspect you are a
>> terrorist. But that's nothing new. They've always done so saying you
>> were a drug dealer. Course, the only thing they seize are your lists of
>> contacts and the documents you exchange about systemic abuse. "I might
>> like to move to Russia, where they take their tyranny straight up,
>> undiluted with the waters of hypocrisy." A. Lincoln.
>>
>> If you read Thucydides, you see this struggle between the aristocracies
>> and the commons has been going on a while. And in Machiavelli, we see
>> how the former ALLWAYS corrupt republics, but then this leads to the
>> impoverishment of the commons until some demagogue arises out of nowhere
>> to seize power in their name, then with their wide approval, the assets
>> of the rich to rebalance the books.
>>
>> Whatever else went on on 911, Silverstein was just one of many who made
>> a trillion on the deal. But, because of the Huey P. Long school of
>> government rules, we'll never sort out just who set it all up. to wit:
>> 1- Never say anything in writing, much less email.
>> 2- Never say over the phone what you can say in person.
>> 3- Never speak when you can nod.
>> 4- Never nod when you can smile.
>>
>> My own academic background is in psych with a minor in comp sci to be
>> able to analyze the data sets. But you dont need a computer to see what
>> Janis is getting at with group think, and how 85%% of those tested will
>> quite literally not believe their own eyes in order to go along with
>> what they think the majority opinion is. Thus, they will prefer not to
>> look at >
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4GINcwsjCAw&feature=related
>> And if they do, block out the rational meaning of the standing core
>> columns and the manipulated manner in which they go down.
>>
>> Its not a case for the 15%% of Americans to show the debunkers here and
>> elsewhere what really came down, but to consider the general effect of a
>> mass delusion this irrational. The majority, not the 15%%, select the
>> leadership. Dr. Freud noted it takes a traumatic event to wake neurotics
>> up from delusion. In this case, that could be a total economic panic, in
>> which case we'll have other more pressing issues. Like food and fuel.
>>
>> Let me note as well, that Islam is even more deluded, and terrorism is
>> one of the results... which has been going for centuries as their own
>> pathology has left them ever further behind the West. Moreover, the West
>> needs to free itself from Christian delusions if it is ever to deal with
>> the Jihadim effectively. As Zeitgeist implies, they dont want to win the
>> wars on drugs or terror, but milk them.
>>
>> But what sheeple think are 'drugs' include sacred shamantic potions that
>> create an altered state of consciousness- which reveals scripture is
>> mostly bullschitt. That's why the war on drugs is going on. Tribes that
>> still use these powerful compounds in ritual dont have a 'drug problem'.
>>
>> And when I discuss this I see the very same kind of ad hominum rather
>> than a point by point attempt to debate the issue. Political correctness
>> has hidden the data. But I began taking psych in 1963 at the U of MN,
>> and I remember the reports from clinicians on the uses of LSD and many
>> other now illegal drugs, to wake up neurotics and even psychotics from
>> delusional states.
>>
>> We all know of the high rate of drug use at the Raves. You dont know,
>> unless you have, as I have, gone to an event to realize how often young
>> women who've taken a 'recreational drug' have been woken up spiritually
>> as well as politically by it. They know 911 is bullshit, and they also
>> know Christianity is bullshit.
>>
>> Moreover, they understand the political system and mass media cannot
>> deal with it. And while we see apocalyptic visions in the postings, we
>> have another model in the Byzantines, who shed unprofitable provinces to
>> barbarism and redirected critical resources to the great power centers,
>> going on like that for centuries. So, as inept and corrupt as the system
>> is, the power elites running the federal reserve and other asset bases
>> may realize they need to give the money back. Or- they will all be
>> dragged out to be shot.
>>
>> Its not upta us. The young women I know are trying to organize a rural
>> community hoping it will be out of the way if the proverbial shit hits
>> the fan. By sharing a house they also dramatically cut down on the per
>> capita cost of living so that even a part time job meets expenses. Here
>> in the Southern AR Ozarks, we have investments in several locations,
>> each further back from civilization, jobs, and markets to develop as we
>> see how the economy copes, or fails to. And we are also part of a loose
>> network of other rural communities that have the same idea.
>>
>> We are not trying to form a political party, or convince the neurotics
>> on the net of the folly proposed by politicians pandering to their egos
>> and pre-sentiments. The exploitation outlined in Zeitgeist>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQis also seen in
>>
>> Thucydides, Machiavelli, & Gibbon. It goes on because 85%% of the sheeple
>> do not have the attention span to deal with what these guys have to say.
>> And its not going to stop because of what Zeitgeist has to say either.
