S: Yes, indeed. I'm as hard as a didgeridoo sometimes i know. :) But rather
than some inconceivable co-ordinated impossiblity of the "govt" pre-wiring
up 3 buildings with explosives, or replacing 767's with cruise missiles
thinking no one would notice it at all .... well, rather than assuming that
a building really is able to withstand an airplane crash ..... maybe that
assumption of excellence was a little misplaced. Or about even though for
YEARS it was common knowledge that terrorist had already been trying and
thinking about flying hijacked planes into buildings, that some action could
have been taken by the airlines to fix the damn cabin doors so it couldn't
happen in the first place. That's all I mean by incompetence vs conspiracy,
but easy to say after the event. etc etc
I thought it was a well balanced approach, which to me, means it will
confirm both sides of the argument..:-).
S: LOL so true!
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The most compelling argument against conspiracy was the point
regarding the difficulty of keeping secrecy over such a wide area, but
of course, there are secret societies that are extremely adept at
that. It could well have happened without government involvment, but
included members of the same.
S:
YES, indeed ....... that is emminently possible, and unfortunately not so
unbelievable. But that's a different kettle of conspiracy about 9/11 that
what one sees on youtube these last few years. When it;s bogged down in
false claims that there was no wreckage at the pentagon or pennsilvania,
when there actually was, and totally consistent with the airplanes, well,
that's a lot of noise to get thru. The US denied any involvement in Chile's
Coup as well. And there's the old one of the left hand not knowing what the
right is doing, while someone else is doing the real conducting.
Sean : andStill, I'm left with the notion that, the usual 9/11 conspiracy
theorists, are no different than the Neocon Bush admin who were 100%% sure
about Suddam's WMD Conspiracy, and refusing to look seriously at anything
that countered that view/belief. Isn't it really more than likely to be just
that simple? Both seeing themselves in each other? we've all done that,
right? ;-)
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On that basis, there are organisations who seek one world government,
and these events fitted perfectly into such a scenario with regards to
Iraq, and the willingness for a large portion of the population to
relinquish more of their privacy for the sake of 'homeland security',
also fitting a larger agenda. Those same organisatons recognise how
much you can fool most of the people most of the time, and is in fact,
one of the motivations for establishing 'big brother'. To protect
people against themselves.We know that power over others is the next
step from aquiring vast wealth.
Sean:
Yes sure .. that is possible. The people are too stupid to understand 'how
serious' the problems are, type of approach. Like Cheney a few days after
9/11 talking on Meet the Press about the need for the security services to
move over to the "dark side" .... fits well into the movie plot script.
Obiwan did say, "beware of the dark side Luke". ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO2GE_-rKtw
I suppose Im applying my 'common sense' and my 'overview' in a similar
way as with physics and metaphysics. Curious about how, but quite
clear on why.
There were so many 'coincidences' that in a court, that amount of
anecdotal evidence would create legitimate doubt regardless of the
verdict, and that like any such cataclysmic events, motivates the
individual to 'look deeper'.
What hit me more than anything else, was when I was sent the wingdings
link form 'somebody who knew better', without any explanation.
To those who dont know what Im referring to. Q33NY representing Q for
Quran 33 being the two triangles in the star of David, and NY being
obvious.
The biggest point to come out of the doco for me, was the amazing %% of
the population that think the government was involved and further than
that, what little effect such views have on day to day life.
Cheers Sean
BOfL
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Sean: Yes, to all, and especially the last comment. Trully amazing that, and
so hard to comprehend. On all sorts of issues besides 9/11 too.
On your Q33NY. Did I ever mention to you that I was in deep deep sleep in
another place when my friend rang me at 1am ourtime - he was watching 9/11
happen live on the tv. I half came to hearing the phone, but couldn't wake
up properly. Very full on "sleep" that nite, I was very very busy with
things. Very clear too. Anyway, I had mentioned to him within the previous
week how uncomfortable I was and i had said to him [ nothing happening in
the news or anything to trigger anything ] "the middle east is going to blow
up, i can just feel it " - a very unusal thing for me to say, was almost
compelled to get it out ..... like your mate, he had to ring me because he
got it straight away. But that's another story.
I'll simply close with new american century site, neocons, florida 2000,
israel lobby, money/power/influence, ethics, fear, justifications and
rationalisations, and self-righteousness.
Happy days hey! cheers, it;s been ... interesting, wait till next year comes
around mate. ;-)))
