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Author: Day Brown
Date: Sep 6, 2008 10:03

bigfletch8@gmail.com wrote:
> I think you would enjoy Zeitgeist, Day.Its on youtube, and covers not
> just undisputable evidence of the type you are referring to, but goes
> a bit deeper. I posted this here a couple of weeks ago and the
> response was positively underwhealming.
>
> Not surprised, because people hold onto their beliefs like drowning
> ment to straws.
I took economics from Walter Heller, and Zeitgeist, while I'm glad it is
out there, does not see the other hand. Everyone sees the interest, but
dont see the investment that results. Which creates the jobs that are,
in turn, taxed.

And of course, some of that investment is in media. Zeitgeist goes on
about enslavement, but inasmuch as sheeple are too lazy, too stupid and
too neurotic to properly inform themselves, slavery is inevitable. And
the question is now how much money the power elite makes, but what they
do with it. They quite literally, cannot spend a trillion on mansions
and the usual collection of status symbols.

Moreover, the power elite is subject to group think like all other
hominids are; so some of these investments made no real sense. Nor will
their efforts to fight the war on terrorism or use the patriot act to
discover plots do anything to improve their security, but if anything,
only make they, and us, all insecure.

Some are concerned about the loss of civil rights. They never really had
them in the first place. My property has been searched 7 times since
1968 when I was identified as someone who thot differently. I could not
hire a lawyer to sue for the abuse to my civil rights because none of
them would want to piss off the local authorities- who they needed to do
business with on a regular basis, and there's no way I could afford to
pay a lawyer from some other region.

Zeitgeist says they can search your house now if they suspect you are a
terrorist. But that's nothing new. They've always done so saying you
were a drug dealer. Course, the only thing they seize are your lists of
contacts and the documents you exchange about systemic abuse. "I might
like to move to Russia, where they take their tyranny straight up,
undiluted with the waters of hypocrisy." A. Lincoln.

If you read Thucydides, you see this struggle between the aristocracies
and the commons has been going on a while. And in Machiavelli, we see
how the former ALLWAYS corrupt republics, but then this leads to the
impoverishment of the commons until some demagogue arises out of nowhere
to seize power in their name, then with their wide approval, the assets
of the rich to rebalance the books.

Whatever else went on on 911, Silverstein was just one of many who made
a trillion on the deal. But, because of the Huey P. Long school of
government rules, we'll never sort out just who set it all up. to wit:
1- Never say anything in writing, much less email.
2- Never say over the phone what you can say in person.
3- Never speak when you can nod.
4- Never nod when you can smile.

My own academic background is in psych with a minor in comp sci to be
able to analyze the data sets. But you dont need a computer to see what
Janis is getting at with group think, and how 85%% of those tested will
quite literally not believe their own eyes in order to go along with
what they think the majority opinion is. Thus, they will prefer not to
look at > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4GINcwsjCAw&feature=related
And if they do, block out the rational meaning of the standing core
columns and the manipulated manner in which they go down.

Its not a case for the 15%% of Americans to show the debunkers here and
elsewhere what really came down, but to consider the general effect of a
mass delusion this irrational. The majority, not the 15%%, select the
leadership. Dr. Freud noted it takes a traumatic event to wake neurotics
up from delusion. In this case, that could be a total economic panic, in
which case we'll have other more pressing issues. Like food and fuel.

Let me note as well, that Islam is even more deluded, and terrorism is
one of the results... which has been going for centuries as their own
pathology has left them ever further behind the West. Moreover, the West
needs to free itself from Christian delusions if it is ever to deal with
the Jihadim effectively. As Zeitgeist implies, they dont want to win the
wars on drugs or terror, but milk them.

But what sheeple think are 'drugs' include sacred shamantic potions that
create an altered state of consciousness- which reveals scripture is
mostly bullschitt. That's why the war on drugs is going on. Tribes that
still use these powerful compounds in ritual dont have a 'drug problem'.

And when I discuss this I see the very same kind of ad hominum rather
than a point by point attempt to debate the issue. Political correctness
has hidden the data. But I began taking psych in 1963 at the U of MN,
and I remember the reports from clinicians on the uses of LSD and many
other now illegal drugs, to wake up neurotics and even psychotics from
delusional states.

We all know of the high rate of drug use at the Raves. You dont know,
unless you have, as I have, gone to an event to realize how often young
women who've taken a 'recreational drug' have been woken up spiritually
as well as politically by it. They know 911 is bullshit, and they also
know Christianity is bullshit.

Moreover, they understand the political system and mass media cannot
deal with it. And while we see apocalyptic visions in the postings, we
have another model in the Byzantines, who shed unprofitable provinces to
barbarism and redirected critical resources to the great power centers,
going on like that for centuries. So, as inept and corrupt as the system
is, the power elites running the federal reserve and other asset bases
may realize they need to give the money back. Or- they will all be
dragged out to be shot.

Its not upta us. The young women I know are trying to organize a rural
community hoping it will be out of the way if the proverbial shit hits
the fan. By sharing a house they also dramatically cut down on the per
capita cost of living so that even a part time job meets expenses. Here
in the Southern AR Ozarks, we have investments in several locations,
each further back from civilization, jobs, and markets to develop as we
see how the economy copes, or fails to. And we are also part of a loose
network of other rural communities that have the same idea.

We are not trying to form a political party, or convince the neurotics
on the net of the folly proposed by politicians pandering to their egos
and pre-sentiments. The exploitation outlined in Zeitgeist
Thucydides, Machiavelli, & Gibbon. It goes on because 85%% of the sheeple
do not have the attention span to deal with what these guys have to say.
And its not going to stop because of what Zeitgeist has to say either.
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