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Author: rscan
Date: Sep 9, 2007 10:22

We, all of us, have a nervous system that lights up our lives. Why not
pay attention to it, rather than this "mind" that none can exhibit? I
have outlined a small set of structures that subsume the mammalian
nervous system. A system that can hesitate, weigh alternatives, and
decide. Is this not enough?

This is a conjecture about how a nervous system might work.
If you are interested in the nervous sytem, you might look at:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/rscanlon/brain/brain.htm

Ray
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Re: natural intelligence         


Author: Glen M. Sizemore
Date: Sep 9, 2007 12:46

nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> We, all of us, have a nervous system that lights up our lives. Why not
> pay attention to it, rather than this "mind" that none can exhibit? I
> have outlined a small set of structures that subsume the mammalian
> nervous system. A system that can hesitate, weigh alternatives, and
> decide. Is this not enough?

People are said to "hesitate," "weigh alternatives," and "decide." To say
that such behavior is explained by saying the brain does these things says
nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
>
> This is a conjecture about how a nervous system might work.
> If you are interested in the nervous sytem, you might look at:
> http://home.nycap.rr.com/rscanlon/brain/brain.htm
>
> Ray
>
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Re: natural intelligence         


Author: Panther
Date: Sep 9, 2007 13:41

>
> People are said to "hesitate," "weigh alternatives," and "decide." To say
> that such behavior is explained by saying the brain does these things says
> nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
>

Well, it's an affirmation of the validity of materialism.

Because most philosopher's have no understanding of science or
mathematics, they are quite ill-equipped to evaluate the soundness of
physical reductionism. The brain is plenty complicated enough to
produce a "mind," without that mind being anything spectacular or
unusual at all.

Mind is brain, in the eyes of many, and all we experience is an
interaction between various brain zones. If you like, mind is the
bridge between the sections and nothing more.
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Author: Alpha
Date: Sep 9, 2007 18:56

"Glen M. Sizemore" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> We, all of us, have a nervous system that lights up our lives. Why not
>> pay attention to it, rather than this "mind" that none can exhibit? I
>> have outlined a small set of structures that subsume the mammalian
>> nervous system. A system that can hesitate, weigh alternatives, and
>> decide. Is this not enough?
>
> People are said to "hesitate," "weigh alternatives," and "decide." To say
> that such behavior is explained by saying the brain does these things says
> nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
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Re: natural intelligence         


Author: tooly
Date: Sep 9, 2007 20:37

> Read up and become more versed in and more up-to-date in the areas you try
> to comment on - at least do *that* much!
>

And thusly have you perhaps explained something of the differentiation
between brain and mind?

I think it's a chicken and egg conundrum myself.
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Re: natural intelligence         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Sep 9, 2007 21:23

On Sep 9, 8:37 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Read up and become more versed in and more up-to-date in the areas you try
>> to comment on - at least do *that* much!
>
> And thusly have you perhaps explained something of the differentiation
> between brain and mind?
>
> I think it's a chicken and egg conundrum myself.

If the mind "is" the activities of the brain proceeding through time,
is the egg the activities of the chicken oroceeding through a
particular time?

A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is smoking a
cigarette with a satisfied smile on its face and the egg is frowning
and looking a bit pissed off. The egg mutters, to no-one in
particular, "Well, I guess we answered THAT question!"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chicken+egg+jokes
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Re: natural intelligence         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Sep 10, 2007 02:21

On Sep 10, 2:22 am, "rs...@nycap.rr.com" nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> We, all of us, have a nervous system that lights up our lives.

Geeeeesh do you really believe you would have come to this conclusion
if all you had was your state of nervousness?

MG
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Re: natural intelligence         


Date: Sep 10, 2007 08:16

nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
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> This is a conjecture about how a nervous system might work.
> If you are interested in the nervous sytem, you might look at:
> http://home.nycap.rr.com/rscanlon/brain/brain.htm

The analogy based upon contemporary computing is tragic. Can you write about
What It Is without resorting to such impoverished metaphors?
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Date: Sep 10, 2007 08:16

"Panther" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mind is brain, in the eyes of many, and all we experience is an
> interaction between various brain zones. If you like, mind is the
> bridge between the sections and nothing more.

Perhaps Mind is whatever the person doesn't yet understand.
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Author: Curt Welch
Date: Sep 10, 2007 09:15

"pico" wrote:
> "Panther" hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1189370507.782471.306940@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Mind is brain, in the eyes of many, and all we experience is an
>> interaction between various brain zones. If you like, mind is the
>> bridge between the sections and nothing more.
>
> Perhaps Mind is whatever the person doesn't yet understand.

That's not a bad point. It does work much like that these days doesn't it.
As new understanding is reached about the operation of the brain, it's all
assigned to the brain, and removed from the mind.
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