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Author: turtoni
Date: May 6, 2008 21:23

A nation is a defined cultural and social community. Inasmuch as most
members never meet each other, yet feel a common bond, it may be considered
an imagined community. One of the most influential doctrines in Western
Europe and the Western hemisphere since the late eighteenth century is that
all humans are divided into groups called nations.[1] Nationhood is an
ethical and philosophical doctrine and is the starting point for the
ideology of nationalism; a nation is a form of self-defined cultural and
social community.[2] Members of a "nation" share a common identity, and
usually a common origin, in the sense of history, ancestry, parentage or
descent. A nation extends across generations, and includes the dead as full
members. Past events are framed in this context: for example, by...
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Author: Immortalist
Date: May 6, 2008 22:25

On May 6, 9:23 pm, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
> A nation is a defined cultural and social community.

Nationalism is sometimes an extremely assertive ideology, making far-
reaching, despite often justified, demands, including the
disappearance of entire states. It has attracted vehement opposition.
Much...
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Author: turtoni
Date: May 6, 2008 22:24

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Author: Day Brown
Date: May 7, 2008 22:36

There is a global trend away from all this, driven by the transnationals
wanting less interference in the ways they do business in communities.

Empires have always shed unprofitable provinces. Part of the reason
Africa is such a basket case now. There are "autonomous zones" being
created all over, free trade zones, and increasing numbers of cities,
like Hong Kong and Singapore that run their own affairs.

If there is, because of the 9 trillion national debt, a run on the
dollar, I can see a number of states secede. This frees them from the
commitment to support social security, most especially in the sun belt.

I read where some states, dismayed at the inability of the federal
government to control the borders, discuss well regulated militias to
get a handle on it. Last year, after tornados tore thru Arkansas, and
the gov did not have what was needed to deal with it because the AR
National Guard was in Iraq, announce that the state would take over the
equipping of the National Guard, and that equipment could not leave the
state without his consent. To the overwhelming approval of voters.

We see transnationals negotiate with states and local communities for
new plant infrastructure. Note, the feds were not invited to the table.
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