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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Jun 18, 2008 19:00
I shall vote for Obama.
This doesn't mean he's perfect about all issues.
Brazil's (partly govt owned?) Petrobras recently hit an offshore field
that is currently thought to be one of the biggest finds ever.
Mexico's govt owned Pemex makes beaucoups of pesos for their nation.
Canada's natural resources, including oil, are its economic drivers.
I'd be against offshore drilling if we had done something substantive
for cleaner alternatives during the past 30-40 byears.
WE HAVE DONE RELATIVELY zilch, the typical public relations tokenism
which pissses me when I think about what lame fools we are.
I did what I could, which was not much, but I did try to my nebish
capacity.
As a pragmatist, I'd be drilling to replenish the U.S. treasury
deficit.
Environmentalists: Unless the greens actually have something
substantive to implement immediately--not more future pie in the sky--
then I won't wanna impede the belated ocean drilling off the coasts of
the U.S.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jun 18, 2008 20:29
> Brazil's (partly govt owned?) Petrobras recently hit an offshore field
> that is currently thought to be one of the biggest finds ever.
Which changes _nothing_ for 99.999%% of mankind.
A lot of old wells are petering out much faster than expected.
> Mexico's govt owned Pemex makes beaucoups of pesos for their nation.
> Canada's natural resources, including oil, are its economic drivers.
Geo exploitation always ends up impoverishing _any_ region.
Go to former boom towns Beaumont and Port Arthur, Texas.
Go to the coal towns in W.Va.
You'ld be better off in some small country with no geo resources and
only intellectual resources, Netherlands, Sweden, Israel.
> I'd be against offshore drilling if we had done something substantive
> for cleaner alternatives during the past 30-40 byears.
Then the proper remedy is to finally do something substantive.
Bret Cahill
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Jun 19, 2008 15:10
On Jun 18, 11:29 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>> Brazil's (partly govt owned?) Petrobras recently hit an offshore field
>> that is currently thought to be one of the biggest finds ever.
>
> Which changes _nothing_ for 99.999%% of mankind.
>
> A lot of old wells are petering out much faster than expected.
>
>> Mexico's govt owned Pemex makes beaucoups of pesos for their nation.
>> Canada's natural resources, including oil, are its economic drivers.
>
> Geo exploitation always ends up impoverishing _any_ region.
>
> Go to former boom towns Beaumont and Port Arthur, Texas.
>
> Go to the coal towns in W.Va.
>
> You'ld be better off in some small country with no geo resources and
> only intellectual resources, Netherlands, Sweden, Israel.
> ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jun 19, 2008 15:42
>>> I'd be against offshore drilling if we had done something substantive
>>> for cleaner alternatives during the past 30-40 byears.
>> Then the proper remedy is to finally do something substantive.
> I suppose it would take months/years to lease, prospect, and set-up
> the platforms and equipment (which is allegedy in shortage).
Supposing sustainable was actually faster than more of the same?
. . .
> Why not just give/trade the nation away to tyrants, because that's
> exactly what is happening today.
> The situation is so preposterous, a fiction writer would laugh at the
> stupid plot.
Reality rears her ugly head.
> That 1600 dollar toilet seat gold plated military budget is such a
> waste if those expenditures are actuqally supposed to be about
> "national security"--what a f'ing farce & tragedy we've constructed
> for ourselves.
The Iraqi quagmire may actually become popular if the oil gets
distributed to enough Apericans.
Bret Cahill
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jun 19, 2008 19:25
> Supposing sustainable was actually faster than more of the same?
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Jun 20, 2008 04:24
On Jun 19, 10:25 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>> Supposing sustainable was actually faster than more of the same?
re: solar cells made of/within an ink printed onto (what? roofing
shingles?)
I am certainly impressed, and now vaguely can recall reports of the
"print solar cell" breakthrough last year.
I posted it here or elsewhere.
Two factories--Calif and Germany-- and backed by mainly knowledgable
private investors & institutions.
Bottomline
When local yokel contractors-builders-installers (roofers?) around
Athens-Atlanta actuallly utilize the stuff, then I'll
really believe it's reality.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jun 20, 2008 08:46
>>> Supposing sustainable was actually faster than more of the same?
This justifies its own thread. We're finally going to drive a stake
through Big Oil's heartless heart.
>> I just heard about this today.
> re: solar cells made of/within an ink printed onto (what? roofing
> shingles?)
I imagine most will just roll it out on top of the shingles.
Maybe pay Martha Stewart to declare it officially attractive.
> I am certainly impressed, and now vaguely can recall reports of the
> "print solar cell" breakthrough last year.
It's the most certain really Big Energy Breakthrough of the decade.
. . .
> When �local yokel contractors-builders-installers (roofers?) �around
> Athens-Atlanta actuallly utilize the stuff, then I'll
> really believe it's reality.
A few months ago they delivered a MW of commercial quality.
> How soon, another few years of research?
Right now a huge sheet is flying off of a roller at paper mill speed.
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