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Multiculturalism is just the start.         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jun 13, 2008 21:08

Why not multipolitical systems? Another example of 'parallel
realities' in harmony instead of in conflict.
Combining the best of socialism and capitalism.

The amount of energy wasted in the constant wrestling of the two
extremes, could be put to far greater use.

What applies to the individual, could also be appplied to the
collective.Seperation of powers could be the model for the seperation
of public services.

BOfL
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Re: Multiculturalism is just the start.         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Jun 13, 2008 21:36

On Jun 13, 9:08 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
> Why not multipolitical systems? Another example of 'parallel
> realities' in harmony instead of in conflict.
> Combining the best of socialism and capitalism.
>
> The amount of energy wasted in the constant wrestling of the two
> extremes, could be put to far greater use.
>
> What applies to the individual, could also be appplied to the
> collective.Seperation of powers could be the model for the seperation
> of public services.
>
> BOfL

You know it is possible but there would be many complications because
tecelation may not be possible at different scales and fallacious
things might more easily happen.

Composition
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Re: Multiculturalism is just the start.         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jun 13, 2008 21:53

On Jun 14, 12:08 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:
> Why not multipolitical systems?

The start is in defining that you mean by "multiculturalism".
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Author: tg
Date: Jun 14, 2008 05:05

On Jun 14, 12:36 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 9:08 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why not multipolitical systems? Another example of 'parallel
>> realities' in harmony instead of in conflict.
>> Combining the best of socialism and capitalism.
>
>> The amount of energy wasted in the constant wrestling of the two
>> extremes, could be put to far greater use.
>
>> What applies to the individual, could also be appplied to the
>> collective.Seperation of powers could be the model for the seperation
>> of public services.
>
>> BOfL
>
> You know it is possible but there would be many complications because
> tecelation may not be possible at different scales and fallacious
> things might more easily happen. ...
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Author: ZerkonX
Date: Jun 14, 2008 05:16

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:08:39 -0700, bigfletch8@gmail.com wrote:
> Why not multipolitical systems?

I think this is exactly what is happening now and is exactly the problem.

But, and this is a big BUT indeed, unlike your suggestion, it is not
admitted too or allowed into political discourse. Things would be a lot
clearer if it were.
> The amount of energy wasted in the constant wrestling of the two
> extremes..

What two extremes are you referring to here? "socialism and capitalism"
are schemes of economics not politics. After all, the 'R' in USSR stands
for 'republic', a socialist republic. 'Socialism' and 'republic' are not
mutually exclusive, neither is 'oligarchy' and 'capitalism'.

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Re: Multiculturalism is just the start.         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jun 14, 2008 08:04

On Jun 14, 10:16 pm, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:08:39 -0700, bigflet...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Why not multipolitical systems?
>
> I think this is exactly what is happening now and is exactly the problem.
>
> But, and this is a big BUT indeed, unlike your suggestion, it is not
> admitted too or allowed into political discourse. Things would be a lot
> clearer if it were.
>
>> The amount of energy wasted in the constant wrestling of the two
>> extremes..
>
> What two extremes are you referring to here? "socialism and capitalism"
> are schemes of economics not politics. After all, the 'R' in USSR stands
> for 'republic', a socialist republic. 'Socialism' and 'republic' are not
> mutually exclusive, neither is 'oligarchy' and 'capitalism'.
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Author: trisector
Date: Jun 14, 2008 09:04

On Jun 14, 12:53 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> On Jun 14, 12:08 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why not multipolitical systems?
>
> The start is in defining that you mean by "multiculturalism".

Americanism is the most multicultural instantiation of
multiculturalism that's practical and it helped enable America
to become the great nation that it is. To emphasize the cultural
differences that divide us rather than common interests that unite us
is a pernicious means to divide and subjugate us by those who seek the
power to control us.
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Re: Multiculturalism is just the start.         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jun 14, 2008 18:39

On Jun 14, 10:16 pm, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:08:39 -0700, bigflet...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Why not multipolitical systems?
>
> I think this is exactly what is happening now and is exactly the problem.
>
> But, and this is a big BUT indeed, unlike your suggestion, it is not
> admitted too or allowed into political discourse. Things would be a lot
> clearer if it were.
>
>> The amount of energy wasted in the constant wrestling of the two
>> extremes..
>
> What two extremes are you referring to here? "socialism and capitalism"
> are schemes of economics not politics. After all, the 'R' in USSR stands
> for 'republic', a socialist republic. 'Socialism' and 'republic' are not
> mutually exclusive, neither is 'oligarchy' and 'capitalism'.

Politics and economocs are inextricable linked.
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Author: Immortalist
Date: Jun 14, 2008 23:18

>
>
> The network stuff is good, the composition/distribution not so well
> written. As for the network optimization: Does this apply in time as
> well? That is, too many meetings of the same people per unit time?
>
> -tg

I think so, like in music how a change in timing can throw off the
physical harmony. But most examples of time network relationships
depend upon some physical relationships, at least in the sense of some
patterns persist long enough to be used by other patterns and building
blocks. Usually some stability remains long enough for a number of
shorter stabilities to produce ordered complexity. I don't know this
is where I left off a couple years ago with systems theory.

All known objects are processes. Consciousness is as much an object as
other processes that re-present a present moment through changing
stuff, everything is constantly changing and opposite things are...
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