Doctor Alan "Bonesar" Sokal in Mrs. Hemingway drag, says that
[random excerpts of the several versions, below]
here's the problem:
*how* does your alleged theory, that pile of words,
actually translate to "be interpreted as many dimensions?"
anyway, you seem to be only saying the Kaluza and Klein
merely had a different interpretation from yours --
what ever it really could be.
again, you're welcome for the idea,
that ST has the same problem as KK,
as everyone already knows. but,
have you seen any review article that attempts to show
how or where any proofs of KK's consistency,
reflect upon ST, or KK's alleged INconsistency?
it seems that it was just dropped as a 5D anamoly,
without any afterthought, like no-one used it;
did Klein provide a pentonions?
>> STRING THEORY'S MANY DIMENSIONS / KALUZA/KLEIN THEORY
>> 1) a fourth expanding dimension can be interepreted as many
>> dimensions, each time it expands
>> Check out the t-shirt with a simple proof of MDT:
>
>> Why are there non-local effects in quantum mechanics? The fourth
>> dimension is expanding relative to the three spatial dimensions. That
>> means that what begins as a point in the fourth dimension is a sphere
>> with a 186,000 mile radius one second later. So it is that the entire
>> spherical wavefront of the photon exists in the exact same place in
>> time. Hence the non-locality observed in double slit experiments, the
>> EPR effect, and quantum entanglement. Take two interacting spin ВЅ
>> photons and let them propagate at the speed of c in opposite
>> directions. They are yet at the exact same place in time! And too,
>> they are yet in the exact same place of the fourth expanding
>> dimension.
>> Why do photons appear as spherically-symmetric wavefronts traveling at
>> a velocity c? The fourth dimension is expanding relative to the three
>> spatial dimensions at the velocity c. Hence photons, which are tiny
>> packets of momenergy rotated entirely into the fourth dimension,
>> appear as spherically-symmetric wavefronts propagating at the velocity
>> c.
>
>> Why is there a minus sign in the following metric?
>> x^2+y^2+z^2-c^2t^2=s^2
>> The fourth dimension is expanding relative to the three spatial
>> dimensions at the velocity c. Hence the only way to stay still in the
>> space-time continuum, and to achieve a 0 interval, is to move with the
>> velocity of light.
>> When nobody could measure nor detect the supposed ether, Einstein
>> proclaimed, "there is no ether." When experiments showed that light
>> existed only in quantized packets, Einstein proclaimed that light only
>> existed in quantized packets, and he won the Nobel Prize. When spectra
>> from atoms showed discreet energies, Niels Bohr proclaimed that
>> electrons orbits were quantized, and he received a Nobel Prize. When
>> Maxwell's Equations had a recurring constant, Maxwell used c to denote
>> it, and Einstein proclaimed that the speed of light must be constant
>> for all observers-and so Special Relativity was born. When Einstein
>> juxtaposed objects falling towards the earth getting closer together
>> with the fact that two people starting at the equator, walking on
>> originally parallel lines of longitude towards the North Pole, would
>> come together because they were walking on a curve surface, Einstein
>> proclaimed that the space-time around a massive object must also be
>> curved. This along with Einstein's realization that the force of
>> gravity would be rendered null in free-fall, lead to General
>> Relativity.
>> Moving Dimensions Theory returns us to simpler times. It starts with
>> the simple and keeps it simple. Light travels with a maximum velocity
>> of c, because the fourth dimension is expanding at a rate relative to
>> the three spatial dimensions at the velocity of c. A photon expands
>> through space in a spherically symmetric manner. This is because the
>> fourth dimension expands through the three spatial dimensions in a
>> spherically symmetric manner. Energy and mass are equivalent,
>> expressed by E=mc^2, because energy is nothing more than mass rotated
>> into the expanding fourth dimension. The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen
>> effect (EPR) effect, which calls instantaneous action at a distance
>> "spooky," can be accounted for by the expanding dimension-as a point
>> expands, it is yet a single locale in that dimension, and hence though
>> separated by distance in space, interacting particles may be in the
>> same place in the time dimension, and hence connected. The null vector
>> of the photon, which remains 0 no matter how far the photon travels in
>> space-time, may be accounted for by the fact that the fourth dimension
>> is moving, and thus the only way to stay still in the four dimensions
>> is to move with along with the expanding dimension. In Lorentzian
>> Transformations, there is no way for an object to be rotated into the
>> time dimension without it moving-this can be explained by the fact
>> that the time dimension is expanding. All wave-particle duality can be
>> seen as the result of the universe's existence upon a reality that has
>> three stationary spatial dimensions and one expanding time dimension-
>> when matter exists in the stationary dimensions, it is seen as mass,
>> or a particle. When matter exists in the time dimension it is seen as
>> wave, or a photon, or energy. Depending how we choose to observer
>> matter determines whether we observe its wave or particle properties.
>> Photons are quantized bundles of energy that propagate at the velocity
>> of c-this is because the fourth dimension is expanding relative to the
>> three spatial dimensions in a quantized manner, in units of Planck's
>> length at the rate of c. The Second Law of Thermodyamics, or the law
>> of Entropy, states that the universe tends towards disorder. This is
>> because the fourth dimension is expanding in a spherically symmetric
>> manner, constantly carrying all photons and interacting particles away
>> from one another-thus a drop of food coloring in a pool will be
>> carried outward and evenly distributed. In 1949 Godel published a
>> paper showing that within the theory of relativity, time as we
>> understand it, does not exist. Einstein recognized Godel's paper as
>> "an important contribution to the general theory of relativity," and
>> since then physicists have not been able to find any logical
>> shortcomings in Godel's work, and nobody has been able to account for
>> the existence of time. But the Theory of Moving Dimensions accounts
>> for time as we know it by showing that it is an emergent property of
>> the underlying dimension's intrinsic relative movement. Relativity
>> becomes increasingly exact at long-length scales but fails at short
>> ones because space-time itself is quantized, as the time dimension is
>> expanding in units of the Planck length.
>> Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Feb 14, 2007 10:20 PM PST
>> Dr. Ranger McCoy says:
>> Moving Dimensions Theory Underlies Kaluza Klein Theory And All String
>> Theories And It
>
>
>
>> So it is the other forces may be unified.
>
>> The higher dimensiosn have been an illusion.
>
>> They may all be accounted for with one expanding spatial dimension
>> which also miracously unfreezes time--a quandry which lead to Godel's
>> frozen universe.
>
>> Kaluza-Klein theory
>
>>>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>
>> (Redirected from Kaluza Klein theory)
>> Jump to: navigation, search
>> In physics, Kaluza-Klein theory (or KK theory, for short) is a model
>> that seeks to unify the two fundamental forces of gravitation and
>> electromagnetism. The theory was first published in 1921 and was
>> discovered by the mathematician Theodor Kaluza who extended general
>> relativity to a five-dimensional spacetime. The resulting equations
>> can
>> be separated out into further sets of equations, one of which is
>> equivalent to Einstein field equations, another set equivalent to
>> Maxwell's equations for the electromagnetic field and the final part
>> an
>> extra scalar field now termed the "radion".
>> Edit your post:
>> Moving Dimensions Theory Underlies Kaluza Klein Theory And All
>> String Theories And It
>
>> In physics, Kaluza-Klein theory (or KK theory, for short) is a model
>> that seeks to unify the two fundamental forces of gravitation and
>> electromagnetism. The theory was first published in 1921 and was
>> discovered by the mathematician Theodor Kaluza who extended general
>> relativity to a five-dimensional spacetime. The resulting equations
>> can
>> be separated out into further sets of equations, one of which is
>> equivalent to Einstein field equations, another set equivalent to
>> Maxwell's equations for the electromagnetic field and the final part
>> an
>> extra scalar field now termed the "radion".
>> When nobody could measure nor detect the supposed ether, Einstein
>> proclaimed, "there is no ether." When experiments showed that light
>> existed only in quantized packets, Einstein proclaimed that light only
>> existed in quantized packets, and he won the Nobel Prize. When spectra
>> from atoms showed discreet energies, Niels Bohr proclaimed that
>> electrons orbits were quantized, and he received a Nobel Prize. When
>> Maxwell's Equations had a recurring constant, Maxwell used c to denote
>> it, and Einstein proclaimed that the speed of light must be constant
>> for all observers-and so Special Relativity was born. When Einstein
>> juxtaposed objects falling towards the earth getting closer together
>> with the fact that two people starting at the equator, walking on
>> originally parallel lines of longitude towards the North Pole, would
>> come together because they were walking on a curve surface, Einstein
>> proclaimed that the space-time around a massive object must also be
>> curved. This along with Einstein's realization that the force of
>> gravity would be rendered null in free-fall, lead to General
>> Relativity.
>
>> And so it is that in the above paragraph you have the roots of the
>> greatest achievements of physics in the past 100+ years, dwarfing
>> String Theory, Loop Quantum Gravity, and thousands of their variatons,
>> which deal in the abstruse, complicated, muddled, and mythological
>> worlds which are safe from physics simple rigor.
>
>> Moving Dimensions Theory returns us to simpler times. It starts with
>> the simple and keeps it simple. Light travels with a maximum velocity
>> of c, because the fourth dimension is expanding at a rate relative to
>> the three spatial dimensions at the velocity of c. A photon expands
>> through space in a spherically symmetric manner. This is because the
>> fourth dimension expands through the three spatial dimensions in a
>> spherically symmetric manner....
>
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thus:
to the degree that I don't type about it,
I'm real. the only stuff that I post,
is that which I reply to, severely edited
(contra to the bogus netiket
of "no top-posting, ***hole!..." I mean, I know that
the memory of Web is always increasing, but
these B*z*s insist on reiterating every line
from "see, above" thread, in every posting;
weird .-)
unfortunately, I spend a lot of time,
replying to Jack Sarfatti [no replies to anyone,
ever], Arividerci Polonium-210 (sik) [no replies to me],
but I've stopped bothering with Jimi knewmath Harris and
his minions (hey, at least the latter two seem
to believe their ****;
JS is an admitted MK-ultra participant,
of one sort or the victims'. also,
sometines this "moving dimension theory" guy
posts the "theory" that is just Hemingway, if
Hemingway were both a)
alive and b)
a failed Hemingway, turned to mathematical phsyics, or c)
paid to torment me a la KM-infra. he never replies,
either, but he did take my prompting,
that stringtheory is no worse that Kaluza-Klein,
and just fell for it -- hook, line, sinker & net
(see, below, and his recent run-on posting
in sci.math etc. .-)
before a)
an electromagnetic pulse or b)
the magentic pole reverses, I'm going
to quit contributing to TheirSpace,
at least for a long vacation;
those are better than c)
rotational pole reversal!
>software that randomly selects 'stuff' from the rest
>of the internet, combines them and then posts them
>>> theory. The adaptive self-organizing strange loop
>> is a no-brainer in
>>> the Bohmian ontological interpretation (e.g. A.
>> Valentini's violation
>>
>> thusly nonsequiter:
>> you can throw the ktichen sink & fractal dimensions
>> into the bath,
>> if you want to ignore the question of Kaluza, Klien
>> and Co....
>> if you want to test it, describe the shape of it.
thus:
have you ever proven the pythagorean theorem, say?
thus:
uh yeah; Borat wants you in Sudan,
why, Baby?... Harry Potter wants you in Iran --
yeah, Baby; shag'US with a spoon?
