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In spite of knowing much, you blaspheme like Checker, though not so crudely.
I solemnly warn you of judgment of Christ to come against you.

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Five 1842-43 Pg.241:

All the religious world is boasting of righteousness; it is the doctrine of
the devil to retard the human mind, and hinder our progress, by filling us
with self-righteousness. The nearer we get to our heavenly Father, the more
we are disposed to look with compassion on perishing souls; we feel that we
want to take them upon our shoulders, and cast their sins behind our backs.

Mormon mysticism is no different than any of your 'Christian' churches.
Sectarians, all.

Tyndale 2 Timothy 4:3-4,6
"For the time will come, when they will not suffer wholesome doctrine: but
after their own lusts shall they (whose ears itch) get them an heap of
teachers, and shall turn their ears from the truth, and shall be given
unto fables. ... I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departing
is at hand."

Suffer v.
2. To endure or undergo without sinking; to support; to sustain; to
bear up under.

life

Speaking of any sectarian that denounces Joseph Smith and/or Brigham Young
and/or Art Bulla, let me quote you the Savior:

Tyndale Luke 13:24
"And he said unto them: strive with yourselves to enter in at the strait
gate: For many I say unto you will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."

Strive v.
2. To struggle in opposition; to be in contention or dispute; to
contend; to contest; -- followed by against or with before the person or
thing opposed; as, strive against temptation; strive for the truth.

Strait adj.
1. Narrow; not broad.

Strictly speaking, Professor David Daniell, the leading scholar on William
Tyndale and his work, is a sectarian also, but he has not denounced the
Gospel of Jesus Christ, or true Judaism/Christianity/Mormonism, restored
through the instrument of Joseph the Seer, as best as I can tell. Indeed at
the Library of Congress in 1997, he quoted from a student with considerable
text processing computer skills at BYU that 83%% of the KJV is same as the
Tyndale translation.

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9707/daniell.html
David Daniell announced at the Library on June 4 that "83 percent of the
King James New Testament is Tyndale exactly." ... Mr. Daniell, who is
Tyndale's biographer, made the announcement at the Library of Congress
opening of an exhibition he curated for the British Library, "Let There Be
Light: William Tyndale and the Making of the English Bible." He attributed
the figure to a student at Brigham Young University who compared the texts
using a computer. "At last the definitive figure for how dependent the King
James is on Tyndale," said Daniell, who learned of the percentage in January
when he visited the college in Provo, Utah.

[end of excerpt]

And this BYU student was able to do this because Prof. Daniell, the only one
to convert the Tyndale NT into modern spelling, had done his part a few
years before. Thank God for that.

Luke 9:50
"he that is not against us, is with us."

KJV says "for us", though in this instance there is not much difference.

The Spirit of the Lord bore record to me several days ago that the Lord did
raise up David Daniell to make Tyndale's faithful Bible translation
accessible in modern spelling. We now recognize the ungainliness of the King
James Version in more than several instances, as good as it is, in
comparison to Tyndale's translation done under duress, and from ground up
using Greek texts collated by Erasmus, another trustworthy scholar rejected
by most of this generation, the one whose Greek texts also served as the
source for the Martin Luther NT translation into German. The fearful King
James scholars did the best they could under the prevailing political and
religious climate.

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You are badly mistaken about the plain and precious truths found in the
Tyndale & King James translations (of the Bible, esp. the former) and all
the other Scriptures, namely the Book of Mormon and the Revelations of Jesus
Christ (the latter received by Art Bulla), though you often sound earnest in
your professions of Christ. You are as much a sectarian as they that you
criticize.

Psalms 116:11
11 I said in my haste, All men [are] liars.

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.375 - Pg.376:

All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the
revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is
after the order of the Son of God.

It is in the order of heavenly things that God should always send a new
dispensation into the world when men have apostatized from the truth and
lost the priesthood, but when men come out and build upon other men's
foundations, they do it on their own responsibility, without authority from
God; and when the floods come and the winds blow, their foundations will be
found to be sand, and their whole fabric will crumble to dust.

Did I build on any other man's foundation? I have got all the truth which
the Christian world possessed, and an independent revelation in the bargain,
and God will bear me off triumphant. I will drop this subject. I wish I
could speak for three or four hours; but it is not expedient on account of
the rain; I would still go on, and show you proof upon proofs; all the Bible
is equal in support of this doctrine, one part as another. (June 16, 1844.)
DHC 6:473-479.

Tyndale Galatians 1:6-12
"I marvel that ye are so soon turned from him that called you in the grace
of Christ, unto another gospel: which is nothing else, but that there be
some which trouble you, and intend to pervert the gospel of Christ.
Nevertheless though we ourselves, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, hold him as
accursed. As I said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other
thing unto you, than that ye have received, hold him accursed. Preach I
man's doctrine or God's? Either go I about to please men? If I studied to
please men, I were not the servant of Christ. I certify you brethren, that
the gospel which was preached of me, was not after the manner of men,
neither received I it of man, neither was I taught it: but received it by
the revelation of Jesus Christ."

You must not deny the Spirit that moved and does move upon Paul, Joseph the
Seer and the One Mighty and Strong, who is Art Bulla.

If the testimonies of the Holy Ghost are in you, you would declare all three
things:

1. Jesus is the Christ.
2. Joseph Smith is the Seer.
3. Art Bulla is the One Mighty and Strong.

Not only these three, but also that Adam the Ancient of Days is indeed God
the Father. Furthermore, you would comprehend and believe the sacred
writings and sayings of Isaiah and Paul and Brigham Young, thereby repenting
and preparing yourself for baptism and the laying on of hands for the gift
of the Holy Ghost.

Tyndale 2 Peter 3:15-16
"even as our dearly beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given unto
him, wrote to you, yea, almost in every epistle speaking of such things:
among which are many things hard to be understood, which they that are
unlearned and unstable, pervert, as they do other scriptures unto their own
destruction."

Tyndale 2 Corinthians 4:3-4
"If our gospel be yet hid, it is hid among them that are lost, in whom the
god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the
light of the glorious gospel of Christ which is the image of God, should
shine unto them."

Tyndale 1 Corinthians 9:3-5
"Mine answer to them that ask me, is this. Have we not power to eat and to
drink? Have we not power to lead about a sister to wife as well as other
apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?"

King James 1 Corinthians 9:3-5
"Mine answer to them that do examine me is this, Have we not power to eat
and to drink? Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as
other apostles, and [as] the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?"

William Tyndale and Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith were martyred, even as
Jesus of Nazareth and Stephen.

Psalms 116:15
15 Precious in the sight of the LORD [is] the death of his saints.

Tyndale Revelation 16:4-6
"And the third angel shed out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of
waters, and they turned to blood. And I heard an angel say: Lord which art
and wast, thou art righteous and holy, because thou hast given such
judgments, for they shed out the blood of saints, and prophets, and
therefore hast thou given them blood to drink: for they are worthy."

King James Revelation 16:4-6
"And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of
waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou
art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast
judged thus. For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou
hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy."

Tyndale Revelation 17:4-6
"And the woman was arrayed in purple and rose-colour, and decked with gold,
precious stone, and pearls, and had a cup of gold in her hand, full of
abominations and filthiness of her fornication. And in her forehead was a
name written, a mystery, great Babylon the mother of whoredom, and
abominations of the earth. And I saw the wife drunk with the blood of
saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. And when I saw her, I
wondered with great marvel."

King James Revelation 17:4-6
"And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with
gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of
abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead [was]
a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND
ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the
saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I
wondered with great admiration."

63 And this I do that I may establish my gospel, that there may not be so
much contention; yea, Satan doth stir up the hearts of the people to
contention concerning the points of my doctrine; and in these things they do
err, for they do wrest the scriptures and do not understand them.

64 Therefore, I will unfold unto them this great mystery;

65 For, behold, I will gather them as a hen gathereth her chickens under her
wings, if they will not harden their hearts;

66 Yea, if they will come, they may, and partake of the waters of life
freely.

67 Behold, this is my doctrine-whosoever repenteth and cometh unto me, the
same is my church.

68 Whosoever declareth more or less than this, the same is not of me, but is
against me; therefore he is not of my church.

69 And now, behold, whosoever is of my church, and endureth of my church to
the end, him will I establish upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not
prevail against them.

70 And now, remember the words of him who is the life and light of the
world, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God. Amen.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 10:63 - 70)

If you truly believe and repent, the Holy Ghost will speak peace to you, and
you will bear record and do all the things necessary to save yourself from
this corrupt generation. This I assure you, based on my own experiences.

32 Even so, repent! REPENT YE, SAITH THE LORD, lest ye receive everlasting
death.

33 Even so, I Jesus the Christ who was also crucified of them speak and
ye know that I am he that speaketh O man, in thy heart, ye know.

34 And I the Lord God love thee, my brethren, more than the tongue, can it
move to express my love toward thee, O slothful man in the flesh, for I died
that ye might live.

Revelations of Jesus Christ 36:32-34

67 Therefor give heed unto the words which I have caused that they should be
written and put into the world, for they verily teach of the particulars and
laws which must be obeyed and may not be abrogated in the least by the
foolish vagaries and notions of mankind upon the points of my doctrine,
which doctrine was instituted for the salvation of my children from before
the foundation of the world upon which thou standest, for I the Lord God am
the same, yesterday, today, and forever and am no respecter of persons.

68 And I hereby set my seal, saith the Lord, upon this work and unto
whomsoever it may come, that it verily is through and of me, saith the Lord,
and doth teach men the right path which leadeth unto the eternal lives and a
spirit of peace will accompany this work to testify that I have spoken it,
saith the Lord God of the Lives.

69 And is the only true gospel which is authorized by the heavens and
recognized thereby.

70 Even so, be diligent and receive whomsoever I send, saith the Lord, and
if ye receive whomsoever I send, ye shall receive me, even Jesus of
Nazereth, whom the world in its pride and wisdom, and its multitude of
creeds and beliefs which are the very chains and fetters of hell, hath not
known.

71 Even so, until I come.

Revelations of Jesus Christ 1:67-71

It isn't enough to say you receive Jesus of Nazareth. After all, the
Pharisees claimed to receive Moses. There were Prophets come before Christ,
and there are Prophets come after Christ.