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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Apr 9, 2008 09:06
Once upon a time a scientist was training pigeons to do various things
for food rewards, a pigeon one day might stand on one leg, and
incidentally receive a food reward. Even though standing on one leg
had nothing to do with getting the reward, the pigeon would ever after
stand on one leg when it pecked away at the computer panels. The
behaviour would be reinforced, since it appeared to work. Human
religionists often do the same when they change severals religeous
interpretations of the world and it starts working. They assume all
the things they did were necessary, and prosletyse to others about
their necessity. These superstitions are for the most part harmless,
but they do make needless extra work when new facts are discovered
about the world that conflict with these dogmas.
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/pigeonsuperstition.html
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Author: John LockeJohn Locke Date: Apr 9, 2008 12:43
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:
>Once upon a time a scientist was training pigeons to do various things
>for food rewards, a pigeon one day might stand on one leg, and
>incidentally receive a food reward. Even though standing on one...
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Author: Preventer of WorkPreventer of Work Date: Apr 9, 2008 18:55
John Locke wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
> yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time a scientist was training pigeons to do various things
>> for food rewards, a pigeon one day might stand on one leg, and
>> incidentally receive a food reward. Even though standing on one leg
>> had nothing to do with getting the reward, the pigeon would ever after
>> stand on one leg when it pecked away at the computer panels. The
>> behaviour would be reinforced, since it appeared to work. Human
>> religionists often do the same when they change severals religeous
>> interpretations of the world and it starts working. They assume all
>> the things they did were necessary, and prosletyse to others about
>> their necessity. These superstitions are for the most part harmless,
>> but they do make needless extra work when new facts are discovered
>> about the world that conflict with these dogmas.
>>
>> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/pigeonsuperstition.html
>>
>> A superstition is an irrational belief about the relation between ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Apr 9, 2008 22:49
On Apr 9, 6:55 pm, Preventer of Work wrote:
> John Locke wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
>> yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Once upon a time a scientist was training pigeons to do various things
>>> for food rewards, a pigeon one day might stand on one leg, and
>>> incidentally receive a food reward. Even though standing on one leg
>>> had nothing to do with getting the reward, the pigeon would ever after
>>> stand on one leg when it pecked away at the computer panels. The
>>> behaviour would be reinforced, since it appeared to work. Human
>>> religionists often do the same when they change severals religeous
>>> interpretations of the world and it starts working. They assume all
>>> the things they did were necessary, and prosletyse to others about
>>> their necessity. These superstitions are for the most part harmless,
>>> but they do make needless extra work when new facts are discovered
>>> about the world that conflict with these dogmas.
>
> ...
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Author: NosterillNosterill Date: Apr 10, 2008 05:33
On Apr 9, 5:06 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> Once upon a time a scientist was training pigeons to do various things
> for food rewards, a pigeon one day might stand on one leg, and
> incidentally receive a food reward. Even though standing on one leg
> had nothing to do with getting the reward, the pigeon would ever after
> stand on one leg when it pecked away at the computer panels. The
> behaviour would be reinforced, since it appeared to work. Human
> religionists often do the same when they change severals religeous
> interpretations of the world and it starts working. They assume all
> the things they did were necessary, and prosletyse to others about
> their necessity. These superstitions are for the most part harmless,
> but they do make needless extra work when new facts are discovered
> about the world that conflict with these dogmas.
>
> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/pigeonsuperstition.html
>
> A superstition is an irrational belief about the relation between
> certain actions--often behaviors--and later occurrences, such as the
> belief that the number 13 causes misfortune or bad luck. Whether a
> belief is superstitious is not defined by the "truth" of the result, ...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Apr 10, 2008 08:06
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:06:22 -0700, Immortalist wrote:
> ...claims by Richard Dawkins, among others, that supernaturalism is
> primarily attributable to religions spreading beliefs among the gullible
> minds of the young, [needs to be challenged]...
Complete BS.
Religion is, by nature, a reactionary event. The event comes first then
the religion. A 'super' 'natural' belief a a reaction to a thing that can
not be explained naturally so some 'super' natural thing is used to
explain it. Get enough people to use this super explanation: Religion.
Religion does not spread shit, churches do. Invested clergy backed by
opportunist states or vis versa.
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Author: MarkAMarkA Date: Apr 10, 2008 09:25
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:49:46 -0700, Immortalist wrote:
> On Apr 9, 6:55 pm, Preventer of Work wrote:
>> John Locke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
>>> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Once...
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