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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: turtoni
Date: Jun 10, 2008 23:54

On Jun 11, 2:46 am, saint7pe...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 10, 11:26 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>> "Humanism is a broad category of ethical philosophies that affirm the
>> dignity and worth of all people, based on the ability to determine
>> right and wrong by appeal to universal human qualities — particularly
>> rationality. It is a component of a variety of more specific
>> philosophical systems and is incorporated into several religious
>> schools of thought. Humanism entails a commitment to the search for
>> truth and morality through human means in support of human interests.
>> In focusing on the capacity for self-determination, humanism rejects
>> the validity of transcendental justifications, such as a dependence on
>> belief without reason, the supernatural, or texts of allegedly divine
>> origin. Humanists endorse universal morality based on the commonality
>> of the human condition, suggesting that solutions to human social and
>> cultural problems cannot be parochial."
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>> "Some have interpreted Humanism to be a form of speciesism, regarding
>> humans as being more important than other species. The philosopher
>> Peter Singer, himself a Humanist, stated that "despite many individual
>> exceptions, Humanists have, on the whole, been unable to free
>> themselves from one of the most central... Christian dogmas: the
>> prejudice of speciesism". He called on Humanists to "take a stand
>> against... ruthless exploitation of other sentient beings", and took
>> issue with statements in the Humanist Manifesto II, which he felt gave
>> "precedence to the interests of members of our own species." He also
>> noted, however, that the same Manifesto stated that humans have "no
>> God-given or inherent right to subdue other animals", and acknowledged
>> that "the organizations that have done the most for animals have been
>> independent of religion."
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> Please don't change the title.

please don't change my title.
> I don't agree with your interpretation.

i don't agree with your interpretation.
> Not killing human beings for no reason does not imply
> all this other bullshit.  It is very basic.  Do YOU think it is
> alright to kill a human being for no reason?  Yea or Nay will do -
> anything more comes of evil.  Don't hide behind all this verbal
> garbage.  Are you a homicidal maniac or not?

huh? are you talking about the morality of war?

"Throughout history war has been the source of serious moral
questions. Although many ancient nations and some modern ones have
viewed war as noble, over the sweep of history, concerns about the
morality of war have gradually increased. Today, war is seen by some
as undesirable and morally problematic. At the same time, many view
war, or at least the preparation and readiness and willingness to
engage in war, as necessary for the defense of their country.
Pacifists believe that war is inherently immoral and that no war
should ever be fought.

The negative view of war has not always been held as widely as it is
today. Heinrich von Treitschke saw war as humanity's highest activity
where courage, honour, and ability were more necessary than in any
other endeavour. Friedrich Nietzsche also saw war as an opportunity
for the Übermensch to display heroism, honour, and other virtues.
Another supporter of war, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, favoured it
as part of the necessary process required for history to unfold and
allow society to progress. At the outbreak of World War I, the writer
Thomas Mann wrote, "Is not peace an element of civil corruption and
war a purification, a liberation, an enormous hope?" This attitude has
been embraced by societies from Sparta and Rome in the ancient world
to the fascist states of the 1930s.

International law recognizes only two cases for a legitimate war:

Wars of defense: when one nation is attacked by an aggressor, it is
considered legitimate for a nation to defend itself against the
aggressor.

Wars sanctioned by the UN Security Council: when the United Nations as
a whole acts as a body against a certain nation. Examples include
various peacekeeping operations around the world.

The subset of international law known as the law of war or
international humanitarian law also recognises regulations for the
conduct of war, including the Geneva Conventions governing the
legitimacy of certain kinds of weapons, and the treatment of prisoners
of war. Cases where these conventions are broken are considered war
crimes, and since the Nuremberg Trials at the end of World War II the
international community has established a number of tribunals to try
such cases."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War#Morality_of_war
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