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Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: MichaelNJ
Date: Jan 23, 2008 11:48

Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
money. Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
ideas. I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
represents and who owns its.

To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/
services. While not all of my money was earned through labor, most of
it was (either my labor or someone else's). And that money
personifies my ability to obtain possessions and services.

Also my opinion is that the money I have obtained is mine.

Taxes. By and far the governments primary means of obtaining capital
(on which to operate) is through collection taxes. Those taxes are in
effect the "fee" I pay to live and work in the US (and entitles me to
the benefit of continuing to work and live in the US).

I think taxes can be broken down into two issues (which appear to be
totally independent of each other). The first is "how much money does
the government need" and the second is "how much money does the
government want to collect from me".

While their are certainly some services that only the government can
provide (in a reasonable manner), more and more we see the government
becoming involved in delivering services that I could provide...
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: Sean
Date: Jan 23, 2008 11:57

gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1f2a32a0-2861-4c76-b219-d142914b1af0@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
> Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
> money. Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
> ideas. I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
> represents and who owns its.
>
> To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/
> services. While not all of my money was earned through labor, most of
> it was (either my labor or someone else's). And that money
> personifies my ability to obtain possessions and services.
>
> Also my opinion is that the money I have obtained is mine.
>
> Taxes. By and far the governments primary means of obtaining capital
> (on which to operate) is through collection taxes. Those taxes are in
> effect the "fee" I pay to live and work in the US (and entitles me to
> the benefit of continuing to work and live in the US).
>
> I think taxes can be broken down into two issues (which appear to be ...
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: kevirwin
Date: Jan 23, 2008 12:13

Personal income taxes are less than a hundred years old in this
country. When originally enacted, the intent was never to tax the
working class stiff, just the 1%% wealthiest. As late as the fifties,
the high end tax bracket was 70%% for the rich bastards.

From "royalty" to "rich"...Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....

K e v
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: Wordsmith
Date: Jan 23, 2008 12:23

On Jan 23, 1:13 pm, kevirwin comcast.net> wrote:
> Personal income taxes are less than a hundred years old in this
> country. When originally enacted, the intent was never to tax the
> working class stiff, just the 1%% wealthiest. As late as the fifties,
> the high end tax bracket was 70%% for the rich bastards.
>
> From "royalty" to "rich"...Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....
>
> K e v

Who was it that got the bright idea to tax our income?
Why not tax us on what we spend rather than what we make?
Seems more fair to me.

W : )
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: Wordsmith
Date: Jan 23, 2008 12:24

On Jan 23, 12:57 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
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> news:1f2a32a0-2861-4c76-b219-d142914b1af0@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
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>> Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
>> money.  Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
>> ideas.  I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
>> represents and who owns its.
>
>> To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/
>> services.  While not all of my money was earned through labor, most of
>> it was (either my labor or someone else's).  And that money
>> personifies my ability to obtain possessions and services.
>
>> Also my opinion is that the money I have obtained is mine. ...
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: MichaelNJ
Date: Jan 23, 2008 12:39

On Jan 23, 2:57 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
> gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1f2a32a0-2861-4c76-b219-d142914b1af0@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
>
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>
>> Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
>> money. Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
>> ideas. I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
>> represents and who owns its.
>
>> To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/
>> services. While not all of my money was earned through labor, most of
>> it was (either my labor or someone else's). And that money
>> personifies my ability to obtain possessions and services.
>
>> Also my opinion is that the money I have obtained is mine.
>
>> Taxes. By and far the governments primary means of obtaining capital ...
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: Sean
Date: Jan 23, 2008 14:10

"Wordsmith" rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 23, 12:57 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
> gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1f2a32a0-2861-4c76-b219-d142914b1af0@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
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>> Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
>> money. Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
>> ideas. I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
>> represents and who owns its.
>
>> To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/
>> services. While not all of my money was earned through labor, most of
>> it was (either my labor or someone else's). And that money
>> personifies my ability to obtain possessions and services. ...
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: Wordsmith
Date: Jan 23, 2008 14:13

On Jan 23, 3:10 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
> "Wordsmith" rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:e90225b6-0dd0-4ec8-aff9-a3e6df477647@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 23, 12:57 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
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>> gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>news:1f2a32a0-2861-4c76-b219-d142914b1af0@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
>>> money. Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
>>> ideas. I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
>>> represents and who owns its.
>
>>> To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/ ...
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: Sean
Date: Jan 23, 2008 14:17

gmail.com> wrote in message
news:673533d5-5121-4fd1-bce4-cc0306bf38d4@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 23, 2:57 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
>> gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1f2a32a0-2861-4c76-b219-d142914b1af0@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
>>> money. Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
>>> ideas. I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
>>> represents and who owns its.
>>
>>> To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/
>>> services. While not all of my money was earned through labor, most of
>>> it was (either my labor or someone else's). And that money
>>> personifies my ability to obtain possessions and services.
>>
>>> Also my opinion is that the money I have obtained is mine. ...
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Re: Money - myths, lies and taxes         


Author: Miller
Date: Jan 23, 2008 14:30

gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1f2a32a0-2861-4c76-b219-d142914b1af0@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
> Just about everybody has their own opinion on how I should manage "my"
> money. Many on this group have offered helpful and not so helpful
> ideas. I think the crux of the matter is realizing what money
> represents and who owns its.
>
> To my way of thinking, money represents labor and possessions/
> services. While not all of my money was earned through labor, most of
> it was (either my labor or someone else's). And that money
> personifies my ability to obtain possessions and services.
>
> Also my opinion is that the money I have obtained is mine.
>
> Taxes. By and far the governments primary means of obtaining capital
> (on which to operate) is through collection taxes...
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