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Author: HardpanHardpan Date: Feb 22, 2008 23:00
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N5/long4.html
Middle-Age Suicide Rate Increase Leaves Health Experts at a Loss
By Patricia Cohen
THE NEW YORK TIMES
February 19, 2008
Shannon Neal can instantly tell you the best night of her life:
Tuesday, Dec. 23, 2003, the Hinsdale Academy debutante ball. Her
father, Steven Neal, a 54-year-old political columnist for The Chicago
Sun-Times, was in his tux, white gloves and tie. My dad walked me
down and took a little bow, she said, and then the two of them goofed
it up on the dance floor as they laughed and laughed.
A few weeks later, Steven Neal parked his car in his garage, turned on
the motor and waited until carbon monoxide filled the enclosed space
and took his breath, and his life, away.
Later, his wife, Susan, would recall that he had just finished a new
book, his seventh, and that it took a lot out of him. His medication
was also taking a toll, putting him in the hospital overnight with
worries about his heart.
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Author: John JonesJohn Jones Date: Feb 23, 2008 05:41
Hardpan wrote:
> http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N5/long4.html
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> Middle-Age Suicide Rate Increase Leaves Health Experts at a Loss
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> By Patricia Cohen
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> THE NEW YORK TIMES
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> February 19, 2008
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> Shannon Neal can instantly tell you the best night of her life:
> Tuesday, Dec. 23, 2003, the Hinsdale Academy debutante ball. Her
> father, Steven Neal, a 54-year-old political columnist for The Chicago
> Sun-Times, was in his tux, white gloves and tie. “My dad walked me
> down and took a little bow,” she said, and then the two of them goofed
> it up on the dance floor as they laughed and laughed.
>
> A few weeks later, Steven Neal parked his car in his garage, turned on
> the motor and waited until carbon monoxide filled the enclosed space ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Feb 23, 2008 10:45
Easiest no brainer I've come across in years.
Bret Cahill
> No mystery here. �One word will suffice:
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> Dumbya
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> Bret Cahill
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>> Middle-Age Suicide Rate Increase Leaves Health Experts at a Loss
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Author: SeanSean Date: Feb 24, 2008 01:42
basically it's saying that so called "health experts" are not very expert
about health or life.
If they were, they'd not be blind sided like this.
Of course there's reasons why suicide rates have jumped.
But it isn't one reason, there are many. Look around. The clues are
everywhere.
"Hardpan" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Feb 24, 2008 05:45
It starts with the early years of well meaning 'suggestion' from or
parents and peers.
From an early age we are programmed to"look foward" to rewards for
effort. Two significant periods validate the timing of the 'spikes'.
One , the post adolescent period, and two, the start of middle
age.Young children, who are most restricted out of neccesity, practice
naturally, the art of human "being", and are then turned into human
"expectants", with all that entails.
The first stage presents us with the first line of disappointment.
Leaving childhood behind with all the promise of the expectation that
brings, only to be presented with greater hurdles regarding
preperations for 'future happiness' of adulthood. The second stage
being the realization of the disappointment, where one expectation is
replaced by a worse one. Decline without the expected reward.
Of course our whole religious culture is based on "future heaven". No
wonder many want to escape.
This whole process is magnified by the window of modern media, where
everyone else appears to be so fulfilled.
BOfL
On Feb 24, 7:42 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:
> basically it's saying that so called "health experts" are not very expert
> about health or life.
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> If they were, they'd not be blind sided...
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Author: phil scottphil scott Date: Feb 24, 2008 10:33
On Feb 23, 4:19 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
> No mystery here. One word will suffice:
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> Dumbya
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> Bret Cahill
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>> Middle-Age Suicide Rate Increase Leaves Health Experts at a Loss
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>> By Patricia Cohen
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>> THE NEW YORK TIMES
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>> February 19, 2008
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>> Shannon Neal can instantly tell you the best night of her life: ...
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Author: SeanSean Date: Feb 24, 2008 15:49
Exactly ... thanks for articulating the clues. :)
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It starts with the early years of well meaning 'suggestion' from or
parents and peers.
From an early age we are programmed to"look foward" to rewards for
effort. Two significant periods validate the timing of the 'spikes'.
One , the post adolescent period, and two, the start of middle
age.Young children, who are most restricted out of neccesity, practice
naturally, the art of human "being", and are then turned into human
"expectants", with all that entails.
The first stage presents us with the first line of disappointment.
Leaving childhood behind with all the promise of the expectation that
brings, only to be presented with greater hurdles regarding
preperations for 'future happiness' of adulthood. The second stage
being the realization of the disappointment, where one expectation is
replaced by a worse one. Decline without the expected reward.
Of course our whole religious culture is based on "future heaven". No
wonder many want to escape.
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Author: NapoleonNapoleon Date: Feb 25, 2008 05:53
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:45:14 -0800 (PST), "bigfletch8@ gmail.com"
gmail.com> wrote:
>Of course our whole religious culture is based on "future heaven". No
>wonder many want to escape.
I've been thinking about this lately. If you've ever read the bible,
and specifically the gospels, have you noticed how Jesus is one
mean-spirited misanthrope?
He is. This person called Jesus, whoever he was, hated other people.
He keeps talking about how he can't wait to be rid of this world and
away from all the stupid moronic people around him. Why do you think
he went willingly to his death? Basically it was suicide by Jews and
Romans. He couldn't stand living on this earth because of having to be
around "people." And of course his "reward" was in heaven.
So it seems more people should be committing suicide, if they follow
Jesus. But then we all know if you commit suicide you go to hell -
right? Seems a contradiction. Oh well.
-N
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Feb 25, 2008 06:39
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:00:26 -0800, Hardpan wrote:
> the suicide rate among 45-to-54-year-olds increased nearly 20 percent
> from 1999 to 2004, the latest year studied, far outpacing changes in
> nearly every other age group.
Look at prescription drugs first. Oh wait, I forgot, not allowed. Sorry.
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